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    Quote Originally Posted by Izsha View Post
    The other tabks dont get resources from tgeir 2nd combo until the 70s. War gets gauge as a trait in the 70s when drk gets their mp gain combo.

    No drk doesnt need mp at 45 off a combo unless you also give gauge etc to the other tabks at the same level.
    Warrior does not have to burn gauge to do an acceptable level of damage at low level. That is a strawman argument.

    The other tanks also don't have to burn such a massive quantity of MP to get anything done. DRK is currently the weakest tank in any content below 70 by a pretty wide margin. From 1-69 it has the lowest damage output, the weakest mitigation, and the fewest utility tools available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Warrior does not have to burn gauge to do an acceptable level of damage at low level. That is a strawman argument.
    Neither does DRK, due to the massive potency increase of Flood of Darkness oGCDs, even if you were to only ever get 3-4 over the course of an AoE fight. We're talking up to an extra 1k potency from that alone. How many Mythril Tempest potency bonuses over Overpower would that take you, and how many seconds to put those out?

    I'm not saying DRK shouldn't have stuff earlier, but its AoE output is sufficient over that level range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izsha View Post
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    There appears to be a miscommunication going on here. My complaints about DRK's gameplay in low level dungeons are limited to the pre-52 bracket. Chain pulling while continually starved of MP but also having nothing but Unleash until ticks bring you back up enough to use Flood again really isn't ideal, you have to admit. If you'll take a look at your own math, you'll see that I'm right. I'm not saying DRK is /bad/, I'm just saying you'd be better served using one of the other tanks in that level bracket.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Neither does DRK, due to the massive potency increase of Flood of Darkness oGCDs, even if you were to only ever get 3-4 over the course of an AoE fight. We're talking up to an extra 1k potency from that alone. How many Mythril Tempest potency bonuses over Overpower would that take you, and how many seconds to put those out?

    I'm not saying DRK shouldn't have stuff earlier, but its AoE output is sufficient over that level range.
    Odds are only your initial pull will see four floods. Subsequent pulls will probably involve a single Flood, maybe two if the DPS are slow. The majority of your time ends up being spent spamming a 150 potency Unleash while waiting for your MP to tick back up. Either way, I am not and have not made the claim that DRK has an unacceptable level of damage. My assertion was that it is the only tank job that has to burn such a large amount of MP to achieve the desired effect. Again, I reiterate that Flood itself is not the problem. Flood is a strong ability that gives you a lot of burst potential in low level dungeons. The only problem is that pesky MP issue when chain pulling. That's it. That is literally my only complaint about DRK's damage.

    Okay! So now that that's hopefully completely over and done with, here's the real problem with DRK at low level: Its defenses suck pre-70. I'm surprised more people aren't bringing this up. Dark Mind might as well not even exist on most pulls.
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    Last edited by Absimiliard; 08-14-2019 at 04:55 PM.