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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Your concern is fine but mybe first consider which Design team maybe used to focus on Trust Altenrate outfits.

    It is most likely the team that works on the content you enjoy, from the sound of it are the more active contents such as Dungeons, Raids, Quests, and MSQ, may not be involved with the design for alternate outfits. So no one that focus on the content you may enjoy may be taken from the work towards that area of contents.

    This area is more likely goes to the team that design the appearance for new armor sets, character's appearances (for each expansion every 2 years), and Mogstation exclusive outfits since this will be considered within their area of expertise which we already know they have plenty of time for since they always spare time for Mogstation outfits once in a while
    As I've already stated in this thread, it's going to require UI changes and there are other things with the UI I'd much rather see addressed.

    Also, frankly, I'd much rather have an extra Mogstation outfit than more outfits for NPCs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    As I've already stated in this thread, it's going to require UI changes and there are other things with the UI I'd much rather see addressed.
    You keep saying implenting optional npc clothes would require UI changes. Except we already have stuff in the game about changing clothes in the bat of an eye: the glamour system.
    They can just copy paste the interface and add the NPC models and boom, time saved if maybe a bit lazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxHell View Post
    You keep saying implenting optional npc clothes would require UI changes. Except we already have stuff in the game about changing clothes in the bat of an eye: the glamour system.
    They can just copy paste the interface and add the NPC models and boom, time saved if maybe a bit lazy.
    That's 1) generally not how that works and 2) still a UI change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    As I've already stated in this thread, it's going to require UI changes and there are other things with the UI I'd much rather see addressed.

    Also, frankly, I'd much rather have an extra Mogstation outfit than more outfits for NPCs.
    The closest thing to a UI change would be new icons. We can already cycle through the available glamours they possess by just right clicking on their portrait in the trust UI and clicking glamour. Would it involve more doing that to cycle through all the ones you have unlocked? Yeah. Could they implement a quick drop down menu to do the job? Yeah, that is not very hard for them to do and could be implemented in a hotfix patch.

    What actually requires a far more in depth rework of the Trust UI is the other suggestions floating around in other threads of implementing more Trust characters that can be unlocked through achievements. Like Ardbert's team for completing the Role Quests, re-unlocking Lyna and Crystal Exarch, unlocking various job NPCs and MSQ NPCs like Hilda, Yugiri, Hien, Gosetsu, Oboro, Curious Gorge, Leveva, etc. As reruns of a Trust dungeon are Lore ignoring anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    That's 1) generally not how that works and 2) still a UI change.
    We can expect the Trust UI to be changed in the future anyways considering there is a chance they may introduce more Trust Companions in the future through MSQ or maybe Optional ones from Side-quest for trust.

    Thus the UI will need to be changed to adjust to the additional Trust companions such as creating 3 Section for Tank, DPS, and Healer Role Trust Companions and adjusting the UI to split the MSQ dungeons between future expansions contents. Not to mention other possible updates to the Trust System they may have already planned but have not implamented yet since 5.0 Version is just the bare bone starter version of the Trust System.
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    Yup, this sounds like a Balmung suggestion. There's so much more they should be working on, cosmetics for something in very limited content probably isn't on their idea list.
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    Please show support for chocobo boots to be added -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/323512-Suggestion-for-an-item-to-be-added-to-gold-saucer-Chocobo-Boots

    Unhappy with how they implemented Mahjong? -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/381358-Mahjong-is-the-most-depressing-mini-game-you-ve-added-to-XIV

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    I'd rather they expended the trust system more before trying to glamour them. This system could have so much potential if done right. Much like XI trust system, not so much in newer content but they'd sure be a welcome to old content that nobody touches anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylla View Post
    I'd rather they expended the trust system more before trying to glamour them. This system could have so much potential if done right. Much like XI trust system, not so much in newer content but they'd sure be a welcome to old content that nobody touches anymore.
    I discussed this a while back in another thread and the conclusion from that discussion is basically "up for debate" since we don't know if they may ever put effort into making Trust work for anything below 5.0 though is was mentione donce they have considered it as a possible future content but remember the words "possible". At this point we can discuss but it is most likely past the "asking for it" stage so we can only wait and see if they have a team working on it or not.

    if they got it working as a future content then it would be a interesting system for New Game+ and new players. Along with a opportunity to introduce new Trust Optional companions in New Game+ for 2.0 to 4.55.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bacent View Post
    Yup, this sounds like a Balmung suggestion. There's so much more they should be working on, cosmetics for something in very limited content probably isn't on their idea list.
    Rather biased comment against people in Balmung server considering this content is already implamented in Trust and they can choose to maybe add more as something they do on the side like they do with events and mogstation outfits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    I discussed this a while back in another thread and the conclusion from that discussion is basically "up for debate" since we don't know if they may ever put effort into making Trust work for anything below 5.0 though is was mentione donce they have considered it as a possible future content but remember the words "possible". At this point we can discuss but it is most likely past the "asking for it" stage so we can only wait and see if they have a team working on it or not.

    if they got it working as a future content then it would be a interesting system for New Game+ and new players. Along with a opportunity to introduce new Trust Optional companions in New Game+ for 2.0 to 4.55.
    I'll put hope on that "possible" even though I shouldn't when it comes to xiv and the many disappointments we've have faced since 1.0/2.0. Though I am happy that they will continue to use them for future content and they aren't just gonna go to waste like say the whole Grand Company system which in my opinion should just be scrapped at this point to free up resources for better content.

    If we do see them extend into old content where it really needed, that would be great. Both new/old players can take on old content without having to gather people or sit in que for ages waiting on a pug group to form that may not.
    Not many people touch 2.0 or HW primal's anymore other then for the weekly book. Even Stormblood primal's have died down a bit.

    We'll see though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Rather biased comment against people in Balmung server considering this content is already implamented in Trust and they can choose to maybe add more as something they do on the side like they do with events and mogstation outfits.

    Did you mean implemented with your 'squadron' and not 'trust'? You're the squad LEADER. You can tell them to wear goofy outfits. You're working together with the Scions, you're not giving them commands. Bad argument.

    And so? More times than not, that I have seen, asking for something like this (Glamourable anything) DOES come from balmung players. There are MANY OTHER THINGS that could/should be done before anyone attempt this. Not everything has to be a dress up doll.
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    Please show support for chocobo boots to be added -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/323512-Suggestion-for-an-item-to-be-added-to-gold-saucer-Chocobo-Boots

    Unhappy with how they implemented Mahjong? -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/381358-Mahjong-is-the-most-depressing-mini-game-you-ve-added-to-XIV

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