Disrespectful and Dismissive.

[LariaKirin]

You said "latest live letter" in reference to ninja only. You can't expect anyone to extrapolate that you wanted that bit referencing the ninja changes to apply to your entire statement. Once again, I regret to inform you that I cannot read minds.

I expect people to have a minimum ability to understand context. Why would I bring up ninja in a discussion about healers? It's merely an example that shows that Squeenix is now willing to do major changes to jobs in the middle of SHB.

When you present statements such as "The existence of Bane, Miasma, Shadowflare today would preclude the existence of anything better than that in the future" as fact, I believe asking for them to not be an assumption is reasonable, especially when this is one of the core points that we're discussing here. There are some things that we can consider implied assumptions. This is not one of them. Remember this?

It'd be nice if we could not present assumptions as facts, and it'd also be nice if we didn't say "I'm not assuming anything" when in fact one of the most the most crucial point that we (in this case you) are making is at it's core, just an assumption. It's not rocket science and it's not philosophy either.
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Nope, but on some statements it's pretty important. Again, the statement that having bane, misama, and shadowflare would prevent us from getting new better abilities is a statement that has very little reason behind it and having proof here would be appreciated. If you can't substantiate that claim with at least some form of evidence, then I suggest that you don't present it as a fact like you did.

It'd be nice if you didn't ignore every single post of clarification on that statement. I've said repeatedly in the latest posts that it's not a statement of fact, but one based on observation. But you keep clinging to that one statement several pages later because, I assume, it's easier for you. So let me rephrase it for you.

"Given SE's observable behavior in the recent past: if they restore Bane, Miasma, Shadowflare, then it is extremely unlikely that they will give us anything better in the future".

I'm curious to know what you understood so far about my point. What is the most crucial point I am making? Please relay it to me so that we can discuss it and so that we can stop wasting time on this.

Source: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...54w3SuMgaL704g

Interesting. I don't take it as "we don't want healers to DPS", but I am curious where they will take it.

5.0 sch was boring
5.05 sch is still boring, but it's slightly better.

Here is what I find most likely: sch (and all 3 healers in general) remain unfun to play for the duration of 5.0
Here is what I find to be possible, but unlikely: SE will listen to their players and healers will get some of the pruned abilities back
Here is what I find to be most favorable, but extraordinarily unlikely: SE does a rework of healers in the middle of the expansion, and gives healers new abilities that fit the classes better than the old ones we had in stormblood
Here is my prediction for 6.0: Healers will suck for the entirety of shadowbringers. SE will remain clueless in 6.0, and give us boring healers once again. Will I even be playing this game at this point? Probably not, if it continues like this

I disagree that SCH is boring in 5.05.

I think it's more likely that they will listen to the players, which is why I want to ask for something new.
Getting Energy Drain back was a direct response to player feedback. The MP reduction on AoW was a direct response to player feedback (to 600 as some have suggested here).
AST was in a rough spot healing wise and they fixed that, but they didn't have to reduce Divination cooldown (to the 2 minutes suggested by many AST players) or improve Sleeve Draw. That is another direct response to player feedback.
If you read the forums enough, you'll be able to relate some of the changes to the posts here.

Why do you think that scenario is most likely?