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  1. #91
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    Mingqin's Avatar
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    Moirrey Kennaugh
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Honestly, I'd consider a server abnormal if doesn't have at least one player that's trying to control the market for infusions/tinctures using bots.

    The most "hardcore" botter on my server has three alt accounts that are used predominantly for scrip farming but also regularly bots both crafts and FATEs himself. The thing that pisses me off the most is that two of said accounts are occupying large houses that are completely bare save for a mailbox.
    That's similar to the FC I'm talking about, I'm literally sure at this point it's one guy and his army of bots, he has a medium house as well, fortunately right now only he is 80 his bot army are still level 70 and still running around the level 70 zones gathering almost 24/7.

    SE need to sort this crap tbh.
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  2. #92
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    Sygglona Ahldfarrwyn
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    Adamantoise
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mingqin View Post
    There's a certain FC on Odin that's got a handfull of them, I've been reporting them for the past 2 months and saw no action taken against them, I saw them chain following each other from node to node, same patterns you see from most DoL bots, SE need to pull their finger out tbh.

    And talking about bots, have people seen this?
    https://old.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ia_congestion/
    This is the real important stuff that needs to be fixed, imo. Bots affecting gameplay secondhand by crashing markets / farming fates / nodes / whatever is one thing, but stopping someone from playing the game 100% is absurd and needs to be dealt with. Amdapor Keep is the same way, although thankfully that's not a MSQ dungeon so it doesn't completely lock out new players.
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  3. #93
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    Ash Primordial
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    Phoenix
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Was yesterday on twintania(new server) and its filled with tons of bots, probably because of the exp buff ofc. The queue to the server is also 1000+ while other server had sub 50 queue.
    Because bots are teleporting around to do mainstory too, its extremely annoying at places where the player has to kill certain mobs in order to progress in the story, like those boars in gridania central shroud in the east. Because of the limited number of those mobs, they were being farmed on respawn.
    They also make the game lag and fps drop if you suddenly have 50 bots inside the aetheryte or under it, triggering that your max distance visibility gets reduced depending on your hardware and system setting.
    The teleporthack from ARR times has to stop...
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  4. #94
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I find it a touch concerning that the gil-farm bot floods are still going on but they've yet to actually make any kind of statement about it.

    This is arguably worse then a DDOS because those don't lock you out of zones entirely or congest the server/instance queues.

    It's also going to leave people who choose to start on the new servers with a very sour first impression of the game
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 07-28-2019 at 02:31 PM.

  5. #95
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    I'm kind of glad that the new tinctures require tomestone mats, as the previous stat-boosting consumables only used mats that could be gathered or used gathering scrip mats and thus were much more exploitable by people who run DoL and DoH bots in tandem to churn out endless supplies of them.

    If they want to produce them in bulk, they'd need to cave to whatever prices people are selling the alchemics at on the MB unless they somehow set up bots that farm goetia tomestones.

    I feel like legit players have more of a place in the market now, though I think a lot of people might not bother with the new tinctures just yet due to how minor the boost is compared to how much more costly they are to make...
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  6. #96
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    Joven's Avatar
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    Jasmine Clayworth
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    Blue Mage Lv 70
    I made a Viera alt on Exodus since Cactuar's full and was running MSQ and side missions in the Bannock when I saw a blatantly obvious bot running the same missions. The mission I was running was the one where you gather the surveyor's equipment. I saw the bot at the quest giver, but at the time I didn't know it was one. I went to gather up the equipment where I saw them again. They picked up the first object, stood up for a second, then disappeared. I saw them reappear by the second object, pick it up and repeat the process. I thought about reporting them, but haven't had good experiences in the past with reporting them.
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  7. #97
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    Barraind Faylestar
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    though I think a lot of people might not bother with the new tinctures just yet due to how minor the boost is compared to how much more costly they are to make...
    If you arent super hardcore about it (and i imagine even some people who are...) 21 mainstat isnt worth that cost.
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  8. #98
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Courtesy of the undercut happy DoH bots, the prices for most gear on my server has tanked to lower then 200K already. They aren't afraid to drop the prices by as much as 50-100K per listing if things aren't moving quickly.

    It feels pretty pointless to even bother trying to push sales of anything mainstream when the bot-to-bot price wars just keep pushing the profit margin lower and lower.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 08-11-2019 at 09:55 AM.

  9. #99
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    Vivi_Bushido's Avatar
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    Hott Cocoa
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    Bard Lv 80
    I think part of the problem is that botting is client side like similar tools used for screen shots. And while both are against the ToS I have been told that they for legal reasons they cannot install client side detections onto your home computer even though their own applications such as the launcher? Which is why mods have been able to sneak by unless they brag about it in game.
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  10. #100
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    Misty Regions
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    Brynhildr
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    Warrior Lv 80
    You know what's awesome, is bots are the future, robotic labor dawg it will replace us.
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