2.5s Recast/GCD feels wayyy too long.

[brasteir]

Love sarcasm in texts. If games were designed based on logs then they might as well be designed for the top 0.1% players. "Oh your parse is 95%? That's why you feel slow., you are not at 99%. Your parse is 85%? That's why monks feel clunky, it's because your parse is low. Ninja's aren't undertuned you just don't know how to play, look at your logs."

You might as well use "logs" for every single problem anyone ever has with the game at this point.

Why would you assume I'm being sarcastic? I don't feel like parse elitism adds anything but toxicity to the community and other regions with higher clear rates allegedly don't obsess over them to same degree. These things also always end up as a cop out in lieu of actual support for an argument like you said. I don't do things in party finder, I want this information hidden.
And the excuse the site gives, "well technically this isn't your information." that is sooo skeevy.

Edit 2: add fflogs-hidden to character profile in lodestone and it hides the parses from fflogs. yay!

[BarretOblivion]

Out of all the MMORPG(s) I've played(WoW, Black Desert, Tera, ESO, Blade and Soul, Guild Wars 2, and FFXIV), FFXIV has the longest GCD and the most clunky combat. I don't know what was the design intent behind such a long recast time? Have you guys ever been stunned for 2.5s during combat? It feels like 2 hours. That's how it feels to sit there waiting for that 2.5s every skill. Even stacking Skill Speed + 13% from my buff only reduce it to 2seconds.

IMO, in terms of content, FFXIV is only behind WoW. In terms of graphics, it is only behind Black Desert, but in terms of combat it's really near last out of all the popular MMOs. FFXIII-3 and FFXV both had great and fluid combat, so why can't FFXIV after numerous expansions?

1) Game is crossplay with console

2) Once you hit 80 you are working with alot of GCD needing to weave skills and job guages.

3) Black Desert is also pay to progress. -cough-

[Xyr]

1) Game is crossplay with console

2) Once you hit 80 you are working with alot of GCD needing to weave skills and job guages.

3) Black Desert is also pay to progress. -cough-

Plenty of console games are super fast paced, Devil May Cry, FFXV, FFXIII-3 just to name a few. Console really don't have problem with high quality combat. I already hit 80 last week.

Also that is one of the two reasons why I don't play Black Desert, the other being there's no content. However, I don't think there's any rules saying non-p2w games must have worse combat systems than p2w games.

As for those of you saying ah there's no such thing as 0 gcd because of physical limitations of how information gets transferred across the internet. 0 GCD is 0 GCD, just because physics won't allow it doesn't mean it's not 0 GCD, no need to argue semantics.

[Dynia]

2,5 is fine, ff series was always turn based, 2,5 sec is your turn and your movement is unlimited by your turn

[Seraphor]

How are you still managing to ignore the fact that you have several OGCD's you use to weave between your GCD's?

You're not using an action every 2.5s, you're using as many as three actions in that time.

That's much faster than having a 1.5s GCD with no OGCDs.

[Samsta]

Could OP please address the OGCD argument? Almost all dps jobs have many of those and the ones that don't have cast times where gcd doesn't feel that bad. The combat system is designed around weaving OGCD skills.

[Kurando]

Plenty of console games are super fast paced, Devil May Cry, FFXV, FFXIII-3 just to name a few. Console really don't have problem with high quality combat.

Those games you listed are not online though so how combat works with those is not really the same as FFXIV. Although playing FFXV (Comrades) online would have it's fair share of actions not registering, players lagging etc, so it's not a perfect example of how to do combat.

You find something to do during GCDs, if you are just waiting for the recast and doing nothing it's no wonder you find fault with it. Use your entire toolkit for your job, eventually you might be complaining there isn't enough weaving!

[IBLazORI]

I'd say OP give ninja a try and youd think the GCD was too short. All ninja openers/rotations require double weaving oGCD's.
But OP is just disregarding oGCD's argument.

weaving in oGCD's is on every job.

[Ryaz]

Didn't WoW remove all its oGCD abilities with the latest expansion? FFXIV still has them and having time to weave them, and sometimes double weave, is very nice. It feels a bit slower at first but when you get used to it, it's fine.

[Daralii]

Didn't WoW remove all its oGCD abilities with the latest expansion? FFXIV still has them and having time to weave them, and sometimes double weave, is very nice. It feels a bit slower at first but when you get used to it, it's fine.

A handful of defensive utility cooldowns are oGCD, but everything else was on a 1.5s GCD. They've been gradually backpeddaling on it after maybe a year and a half of people telling them it was a terrible idea.