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[AngeliouxRein]

easily could be two blue mages
keep limited mage and carnival akin to Bard performance
and make a blue mage dps that's not limited

and have to level limited blue mage to 50 to unlock the other blue mage for continuity sake

I actually wouldn't mind this idea. People could get a gist of how Blue mage works and then after that maybe the skills could be reworked to sort of mimic the look of the skills you learned. Have the skills function change so that we don't have 5 of the same skills.

[ReiMakoto]

Those asking to "just make" Blue mage a full job don´t take into account, that
1. Developement time/ressources are a thing
2. Another new job would have to be canceled in favor of blue mage
3. Blue mage is side content, it never was intended to be more. (SE should never have called it "job" in the first place, but thats another story)
4. Blue mage is only lvl 50 atm; more content for 5.1 is already announced;
5. Limited jobs are a good idea for side content. Jobs that never would be implemented otherwise (like BLU) can still get their place in the game.

And those defending SEs decision don't realise a lot of people consider it bad side content in general currently (willing to be proven wrong in updates but i doubt itll be good), and also that having your favourite job be a joke is not substitute for being able to main it, and im totally fine losing other jobs if it means BLU is playable

[Laphael]

im totally fine losing other jobs if it means BLU is playable

Yeah, and I´m not.

[Alleo]

I'm glad to see people still care about the job being more than it currently is, hopefully they do someday revisit it instead of letting it die off as it looks like it was intended to do.



yes that's always been very telling about the community. More upset about a race option than gameplay and job options. I think Yoshi P should just take this as a subtle note that we don't need classes anymore or gameplay changes or new content. Just shower us in race options with no new content.

Or people can complain about more than one thing. At the time of its release blue was talked about quite a lot but we are told that we should wait for the next content before we give our final feedback..so it makes sense that the topic would drop down. The new expansion just released with genderlocked races..so of course people will talk about this. That does not mean that we (as those posting in that thread) dont care about gameplay or jobs at all. Its just that its not the focus right now but I can assure you that as soon as the new blue only content comes out it will be talked about again.

Also nobody stops you (as in those wanting to still talk about gameplay) to make threads about it or visit old ones again.

About the topic: My view has not changed. Limited blue is useless content in my eyes which should have been used elsewhere..sadly since I will probably need to level it first (and acquire certain skills) I wont see the new content they have planned...but I cant see how that will ever be so great that this limited job is fine..they could have easily done that too with a normal blue job.

[BlitzAceRush]

I think there in lies the rub, a lot of people are treating it like it was a choice between normal BLU and limited BLU when everything Yoshi ever said about the job when asked was basically it won't work, fit and likely will never be, meaning before they came up with the idea for limited jobs there was never going to be a BLU.

I like the limited version, it leaves a lot to be desired but I'm hoping given updates they'll make improvements but I doubt they'll ever unlock it, a lot of people would rather it never existed if that's the case and that fine but I disagree, Beast Master was another job sited to be a limited job, before that and Yoshi not liking pet jobs I'd resigned myself to never getting it, if my choices are limited or not at all, I'll happily take a limited version.

I do agree it never should have been called a job, it may masquerade (heh...) as one but it very much isn't. it's side content like the Gold saucer or hunts, e.c.t and like other side content it's pretty bare bones right now, but that's just how most side content is in it's first release the Gold saucer launched with a limited amount of mini-games, prizes and activities. Several updates later it's gotten so much better and offers so much more, so long as they keep supporting BLU it'll likely end up the same.

I do sympathise with those who wanted BLU as a standard job but that was likely never meant to be, for SE it was this or just no BLU, even if 14 keeps going for 10+ more years, not every job can make it in or be made to fit in, for some this may be their only chance for making it into 14 and I'm OK with that.

Would I rather Beast Master be a normal job? Of course, but if they have no interest in ever making it and only consider it as limited I'd rather have some form of it than nothing at all.

[ReiMakoto]

I think there in lies the rub, a lot of people are treating it like it was a choice between normal BLU and limited BLU when everything Yoshi ever said about the job when asked was basically it won't work, fit and likely will never be, meaning before they came up with the idea for limited jobs there was never going to be a BLU.

I like the limited version, it leaves a lot to be desired but I'm hoping given updates they'll make improvements but I doubt they'll ever unlock it, a lot of people would rather it never existed if that's the case and that fine but I disagree, Beast Master was another job sited to be a limited job, before that and Yoshi not liking pet jobs I'd resigned myself to never getting it, if my choices are limited or not at all, I'll happily take a limited version.

I do agree it never should have been called a job, it may masquerade (heh...) as one but it very much isn't. it's side content like the Gold saucer or hunts, e.c.t and like other side content it's pretty bare bones right now, but that's just how most side content is in it's first release the Gold saucer launched with a limited amount of mini-games, prizes and activities. Several updates later it's gotten so much better and offers so much more, so long as they keep supporting BLU it'll likely end up the same.

I do sympathise with those who wanted BLU as a standard job but that was likely never meant to be, for SE it was this or just no BLU, even if 14 keeps going for 10+ more years, not every job can make it in or be made to fit in, for some this may be their only chance for making it into 14 and I'm OK with that.

Would I rather Beast Master be a normal job? Of course, but if they have no interest in ever making it and only consider it as limited I'd rather have some form of it than nothing at all.

Ive never liked this argument of "Yoshi says it would never work" when even with its current implementation its blatant how it could work. Also im fairly sure hes said things wouldnt work before in the past then its been put in the game later anyway, but i may need sourcing on that cos i could be misremembering. And as much as i love blue mage, if they arnt willing to put the effort in to make it a real job, id rather they put the time and resources into good side content regular jobs can do instead of this limited job system.

[BlitzAceRush]

Ive never liked this argument of "Yoshi says it would never work" when even with its current implementation its blatant how it could work. Also im fairly sure hes said things wouldnt work before in the past then its been put in the game later anyway, but i may need sourcing on that cos i could be misremembering. And as much as i love blue mage, if they arnt willing to put the effort in to make it a real job, id rather they put the time and resources into good side content regular jobs can do instead of this limited job system.

I'm not agreeing with him saying it would never work, anything could work if they twist it enough to fit, Red is a prime example, it's not a jack of all trades but it honours the flavor of that image with it's healing and rez capabilities. BLU could easily be contorted to fit into 14 systems my point was Yoshis words on the matter made it clear they simply had no interest in trying, they felt they couldn't make it work under the rules they set for themselves regarding the job and so seemed to have zero intention of making it before limited jobs were a thing.

I simply disagree on your last point, I think BLU is fine side content but the true judge will be how it grows moving forward as we're still at ground zero with its implementation, but if my choices are not getting some jobs or getting a limited version of them in the form of side content I'm totally down for that, I main Tanks and healers but a proper pet job is the only thing that could drag me into the dps role full time... unless it was a tank (I can dream...) but despite wanting to main a proper pet job with all my being, if it's nothing or limited I'll take limited.

[GenericMagus]

Those asking to "just make" Blue mage a full job don´t take into account, that
1. Developement time/ressources are a thing
2. Another new job would have to be canceled in favor of blue mage
3. Blue mage is side content, it never was intended to be more. (SE should never have called it "job" in the first place, but thats another story)
4. Blue mage is only lvl 50 atm; more content for 5.1 is already announced;
5. Limited jobs are a good idea for side content. Jobs that never would be implemented otherwise (like BLU) can still get their place in the game.

1. Everyone knows this, but so does every new content. Constant repeating of this makes it seem that SE is unable to make any new content, and going to its logical extreme of it is that SE is unable to make any new content for it.
2. Or the idea can be made for it at a later date instead of right now, while BLU is something that people like me are clamouring for. Why should we be neglected yet others have their content.
3. And the "side content" is what we have been doing all this time, its side content is ARR endgame. It's nothing new.
4. This is just shifting the goal posts everytime someone says this. Will you say the same argument for 5.1? They had all the time to wow us with the concept yet they just keep proving the very worries we have right.
5. If they have practically an entire game built around them, like legit a game separate from FFXIV yes, but your "limited resources" shoot that argument in the foot.

What do you do with BLU? How far have you played it? Do you even have the knowledge and knowledge on its "endgame side content"?

[Laphael]

What do you do with BLU? How far have you played it? Do you even have the knowledge and knowledge on its "endgame side content"?

I have lvled it to 50, i have almost all spells (2 missing).

I use BLU more often than for example:
-every job that is not rdm/sch/whm/pld,
-Chocobo racing,
-lord of verminion,
-all pvp content
-Diadem

I use BLU mostly for bossfates, low lvl dungeons (if we are a full premade), self destruct at funny places.

How about you, have you even given it a chance?

[BubblyBoar]

Those saying "just play something other than BLU" or "why make BLU just like the other jobs" are completely missing the point of why people are upset about BLU> They didn't want just another job to play, they want to play BLU. BLU, specifically, is the problem that the system creates. I want to play BLU. Just like I want to play BLM or DRk. But as it as now, we don't get to play BLU, we get to do side content. This side content could have been anything. BLU spells could have easily been limited use eureka actions. Collect them, have fun with them doing jank things, but you can use them in expansion content or DF. The Carnivale? Could have easily been a monster arena to use those actions in. The same puzzles and fun. There is absolutely no reason to have BLU tacked on to either of them. But even if it is, BLU can still exist in a balanced form while having the current content the way it is.

The only reason BLU is limited, and not a real job, is because the dev team willingly made it so. Not because of balance or time constraints or anything. It was what they wanted to do and that sucks for people that want to main their favorite job.