Disappointed coming from WoW pvp

[Beamin]

i only played wow to pvp. quit because the game is awful. mostly because theyve pruned every class to having barely any abilities. loving ff14 because class design is so good with lots of abilities and ways to play.

but then turns out all your abilties go away when you pvp? i have even less abilities than in WoW. also the feast you are forced into a specific role comp? (tank melee ranged healer).

what even is the point of dragoon? i do less dmg than tanks and die 500x faster with less mobility. i have no cc and no defensive abilities. so what is like....the skill in this? i just press my 2 dps buttons. no timely defensives to save me. no making big plays with clutch cc/peels. how is pvp in this game so brainless compared to wow which is a completely neutered version of itself? surely there is something im missing here.

brb while me and my samurai friend duel and dont understand why we win or lose other than his class just happens to do more dmg with its 2 buttons than my 2 buttons does.

[RydiaFey]

Hey just wanted to ask if you opened your pvp profile and set up your hotbars. It's under the character tab. Actions are changed in pvp, but you most certainly have more than two abilities.
Good luck and welcome to FFXIV!

[Beamin]

Hey just wanted to ask if you opened your pvp profile and set up your hotbars. It's under the character tab. Actions are changed in pvp, but you most certainly have more than two abilities.
Good luck and welcome to FFXIV!

yea ive done that. i was being a little sarcastic about having 2 buttons, but only slighly. i have 2 buttons with 4 abilities baked into them. one dmg cd. BotD which is effectively a passive. hi jump. 1 gap closer. nd stardiver. very few abilities even by wows standards.

[Laphael]

I´m glad that FF14 has different skills for pve and pvp.
It would be horrible, if we had pve skills changed because they are to strong/weak in pvp.

[Beamin]

im all for having a seperate skillset for pvp than pve. i wish WoW had that. but can we have more than 2 abilities for pvp please?

[NessaWyvern]

I´m glad that FF14 has different skills for pve and pvp.
It would be horrible, if we had pve skills changed because they are to strong/weak in pvp.

Actually it was amazing in Heavensward, PvP felt pretty solid then, and you had more abilities in PvP than in PvE. Some potencies were different on some classes for PvP, but it did not affect PvE at all. Healers felt great. To do well, you were required to get to know you class, which, when you had all you PvE abilities in PvP, was easy to do.

It's so darn annoying when you get no new PvP modes or gear when an expansion drops. If the rest of the community can get new stuff to be hyped about, why can't Pvpers?
All we get is disappointment when they try to "fix" classes each expansion (failing horribly) , and then only towards the end of an expansion does PvP start to get even slightly balanced.

[Araxes]

To do well, you were required to get to know you class, which, when you had all you PvE abilities in PvP, was easy to do.

It was never hard to learn your Job. It just required people to do something and that was to much to ask apparently.

[NessaWyvern]

It was never hard to learn your Job. It just required people to do something and that was to much to ask apparently.

Yeah, too true. I still see healers do sub 200k healing in frontlines.

[BloodRubyXII]

Yeah, too true. I still see healers do sub 200k healing in frontlines.

Play SCH in a frontline and try to consistently get over 300k. The job is actually awful.

[Shurrikhan]

I´m glad that FF14 has different skills for pve and pvp.
It would be horrible, if we had pve skills changed because they are to strong/weak in pvp.

These forums sure do love their false ultimatums...

You can have the same spread or number of abilities, and toolkit depth therein, without each having the same power between both PvE and PvP. Not wanting to adjust PvE potency values or the like due to their distinct use in PvP =/= "You must reduce PvP actions to a bare, braindead minimum!"