Petition for Crystal Exarch as a Trust (Be warned: Potential Story Spoilers)

[Iscah]

I kind of prefer the assumption that you're doing it alone, like what most of the post-ARR content seems to suggest. Though moments like the Crystal Exarch summoning in additional pylo-err, heroes, made for a good moment, too.

Actually a lot of quests make a point of mentioning the other adventurers helping you out, even back in ARR. Stormblood was just leaning particularly hard on the fourth wall.

[Laphael]

Since i played the MSQ with a friend and we were kind of powering through, i missed the opportunity to play with Exarch at all, which is a bit sad.
There is an info missing, that you can´t do that later anymore...

So yes, pls give the Exarch back.

And while we are at it, give us Estinien with the next Patches.

[Hezzlocks]

Actually a lot of quests make a point of mentioning the other adventurers helping you out, even back in ARR. Stormblood was just leaning particularly hard on the fourth wall.

Yeah, that's why I said most post-ARR content. ARR content very often suggests you get your buddies around, but outside of a couple of jokes like Lyse's "Maybe some of your friends are on holiday in the Ruby Sea?" thing in Stormblood, just about all the content post-ARR, more specifically after Ultima Weapon, tends to go on about how *you* specifically are the only one able to kill X Primal and you're just gonna have to go and do it on your own.

Take, for example, Ravana. You and Ysayle go to confront him. Just the two of you. When Ravana strikes Shiva down he questions if *you* will be a challenge, not you and your friends. Just you.

[Fhaerron]

I bet I know whats gonna happen if they do....you'll be required to level the exarch on each role individually. that means 15 runs to gain a level, before he reaches 72. Then 60 runs to get him to il mheg. I see it already...

There's enough of content drought between big patches, gives us something more to do for those that want him.

[Jandor]

I kind of prefer the assumption that you're doing it alone, like what most of the post-ARR content seems to suggest. Though moments like the Crystal Exarch summoning in additional pylo-err, heroes, made for a good moment, too.

just about all the content post-ARR, more specifically after Ultima Weapon, tends to go on about how *you* specifically are the only one able to kill X Primal and you're just gonna have to go and do it on your own.

Take, for example, Ravana. You and Ysayle go to confront him. Just the two of you. When Ravana strikes Shiva down he questions if *you* will be a challenge, not you and your friends. Just you.

For most content, pre & post-ARR, you canonically had help. There are a few exceptions here and there, Ravana is actually a good example, but for the most part your journal states that you gathered your party before venturing forth.

It should be noted that while it isn't explicitly stated either way for Ravana, and that the most logical conclusion would be that you fight him alone, the game does give a very flimsy excuse for a full party with an NPC in the cave having found a convenient route in and out that gives you a chance to go get backup if you need.
They also did the same with Ifrit way back at the start of ARR as well.

Getting sort of off track anyway, some of these justifications used for full parties are super flimsy at best is the point, with a canon trust summoning system they'd never have to bother with throwaway NPCs and bizarre fishing holidays ever again. You need help? Well channel your inner Exarch and get it.

Of course it might then go the other way, and we get flimsy explanations for why we didn't just summon up a full party...

Last edit: If we reached across space and time could we get Haurchefant tank trust?

[Haruane]

And while we are at it, give us Estinien with the next Patches.

Haha. That's exactly what Yoshi said what he thinks that people will tell them. XD

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Yes, please! Just for trust system and not MSQ I would totally want him be there. (Not that I wouldn't want him in MSQ but after what happened in Heavensward... *sigh*)

[Granyala]

+1 for getting the Crystal Exarch bro.

Come on SE, you know he's dying to do some adventuring with us. Not permitting him to play is mean!

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Only if he gears up. I don't want a tank trying to tank with a Lv1 shield and failing every run. :P

[Hezzlocks]

For most content, pre & post-ARR, you canonically had help. There are a few exceptions here and there, Ravana is actually a good example, but for the most part your journal states that you gathered your party before venturing forth.

It should be noted that while it isn't explicitly stated either way for Ravana, and that the most logical conclusion would be that you fight him alone, the game does give a very flimsy excuse for a full party with an NPC in the cave having found a convenient route in and out that gives you a chance to go get backup if you need.
They also did the same with Ifrit way back at the start of ARR as well.

Getting sort of off track anyway, some of these justifications used for full parties are super flimsy at best is the point, with a canon trust summoning system they'd never have to bother with throwaway NPCs and bizarre fishing holidays ever again. You need help? Well channel your inner Exarch and get it.

Of course it might then go the other way, and we get flimsy explanations for why we didn't just summon up a full party...

Last edit: If we reached across space and time could we get Haurchefant tank trust?

I've not really read many of the journals, tbh, so I'll have to take your word on that. Just going by in-game dialogue and cutscenes, it really gives the feeling of you doing it alone, so I guess the big distinction is whether or not you've read the journals.

You're right about some of the justifications being flimsy. I mean, the sneaky exits you mentioned for Ravana and Ifrit are good examples of flimsy justifications, as it feels really weird that they'd just, you know, sit there and wait for you to come back. I know Ifrit doesn't actually get summoned until you engage the trial, but how long does it take to go out and gather up a bunch of people, all of whom are conveniantly blessed with protection against tempering, then come back? Those prisoners were still just sitting there waiting for Ifrit to be summoned, which was imminent at the point where you were able to sneak off. This is why I always preferred the idea that the WoL mostly just does things on their own, unless otherwise stated. It avoids a lot of these little explanations.

Having a canonical party summoning spell would also work, until it doesn't, anyway. It'd have to be done well, well enough to explain why you can summon a party just as you're about to kill a Primal, but not when you're about to, say, invade Eulmore, and also why you can summon a full party while Nidhogg, Lakshmi, Yotsuyu, Omega, etc are staring at you, but not when it comes time to fight someone like Zenos or Ran'jit. I know those would have come before you learned the space-time party summon spell, but you just KNOW there'll be more of those situations in the future

I would totally take a Haurchefant trust tank. But, I'm afraid that the first tankbuster thrown his way will break his shield and one-shot him! Too soon?

[Iscah]

Seriously guys, it's clearly not a Lv1 shield from how long he held out against that attack.

As I said in another discussion recently: he did the mechanic correctly, but nobody else joined him for the line stack. :/

[RagnaBahamut]

I would love see add Iroha Trust from FFXI however she is still stuck in Eorzea if ask she know about "Trust"


btw sorry my not good sentence.