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  1. #11
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    This is the way it is so that the players have a reason to do all 4 fights and not just spam the easiest one.
    That's why you limit it to one piece per fight in the new method I give.
    (4)
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  2. #12
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    LeoLupinos's Avatar
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    Leo Lupinos
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    That's why you limit it to one piece per fight in the new method I give.
    It will stop working the moment they lift the weekly limitation, and players will start to only spam the easiest fight, and thus causing queue problems for the ones that need to clear the other fights.

    But I agree to convert the old ones into a single token, since it's a content covered by the roullete, and players does not do them anymore because of the gear.
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  3. #13
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    Korbin Dallas
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    Twintania
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Just stop hoarding older currencies then. The "but what if?" holds no water, just buy the thing you might maybe possibly some day want to get and throw away the left overs. Inventory management isn't hard.
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  4. #14
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    If only there was some way to farm old fights quickly and easily so you didn't have to hold onto old currencies.

    SE, please add this function!
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  5. #15
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    Hash_Browns's Avatar
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    Hash Browns
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    It will stop working the moment they lift the weekly limitation, and players will start to only spam the easiest fight, and thus causing queue problems for the ones that need to clear the other fights.

    But I agree to convert the old ones into a single token, since it's a content covered by the roullete, and players does not do them anymore because of the gear.
    How exactly will that change anything when they finally unlock it? All that makes for right now is that 2 will be spammed over 1 for gloves, and 1 will be spammed for everything else considering the drops look like this:

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  6. #16
    Player CorbinDallas's Avatar
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    Korbin Dallas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    How exactly? All that makes for right now is that 2 will be spammed over 1 for gloves, and 1 will be spammed for everything else considering the drops look like this:

    He means under the singular token type suggestion. When it's unlocked nobody will bother with the harder fights, causing queue times for them to skyrocket.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    He means under the singular token type suggestion. When it's unlocked nobody will bother with the harder fights, causing queue times for them to skyrocket.
    Yes. And once it's unlocked with the current system - no one will bother with the hard fights.
    AS far as tokens go e2 drops all of them, and e1 (the easiest of the 4) drops everything but the gloves.

    e3 & e4 have a lot more going on then the other 2, and will still be dead once unlocked.

    e4 will only be used to get the weapon.

    Edit:
    I feel like I should explain further.
    Currently, e1 drops everything but gloves, and e4 drops everythign but the head & belt.

    So, e1 & e4 will be used once the unlock happens. e4 was going to be used either way because it drops the weapon.

    Now, if coins were used instead of the current system, and everyone got a coin.
    e1 would be used as a quick coin grab, and e4 would be used for the weapon.

    Either way, once the unlock happens. e1 & e4 will be the only ones queued for..
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    Last edited by Hash_Browns; 07-17-2019 at 12:30 AM.

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    Warlyx's Avatar
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    How exactly will that change anything when they finally unlock it? All that makes for right now is that 2 will be spammed over 1 for gloves, and 1 will be spammed for everything else considering the drops look like this:

    4 drops sword
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  9. #19
    Player CorbinDallas's Avatar
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    Yes. And once it's unlocked with the current system - no one will bother with the hard fights.
    AS far as tokens go e2 drops all of them, and e1 (the easiest of the 4) drops everything but the gloves.

    e3 & e4 have a lot more going on then the other 2, and will still be dead once unlocked.

    e4 will only be used to get the weapon.
    You misunderstand. The suggestion was that the tokens are condensed into 1. That one token can get you any gear piece so long as you have the sufficient quantity. Once the loot unlocks, meaning you aren't restricted to 1 per floor per week, people would only bother doing the easiest floor along with 4 for the weapon. What drops where now doesn't matter.
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  10. #20
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Spriggan
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    Conjurer Lv 71
    I don't understand why the individual tokens can't be kept BUT just go into the currency section so they don't waste space. My saddle bag is filled to the brim with that stuff. At least you can access that without going to your retainer every time.

    The current system is very clunky, I agree.
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