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  1. #11
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    Ariase's Avatar
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    Amatsu Fanelitz
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    Lamia
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LegoTechnic View Post
    Because it dealt 100 potency on application and if there were three or more mobs, your DoTs were bane'd, and you didn't need to heal, then what else would you do?
    Start helping that basic DPS who doesn't know how to AoE with Broil II while Miasma II ticked down, and re-apply as needed. That's what I started doing towards the end of Stormblood.
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    Someday. qvq

  2. #12
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    NyneSwordz's Avatar
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    Dugu Qiubai
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Yeah i miss bane. Art of war looks like it should have a cast time. How youre able to kneel and palm the floor and keep moving is weird. Also, seraph doesnt fit into sch thematically.

    I also preferred the older red broils...
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  3. #13
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Well it only costs 600 MP now so if there were any mp issues before they should be gone now.
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  4. #14
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I actually like AoW. As just the animation, it's a neat replacement to Miasma 2; but not Miasma 2, Bane, AND Shadowflare. That's why their AoE is nowhere near as satisfying as it once was.

    Hopefully when 5.1 rolls around they get something back, but I feel they need both an aetherflow dump skill, and an AoE answer to Assize and Earthly Star.
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  5. #15
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 100
    I just dont like that you need to be at melee range to do your AoE as a healer... It is just not safe in big puls with loads of AoEs
    Holy and Gravity are ranged, not sure why we have to be that close...
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    I just dont like that you need to be at melee range to do your AoE as a healer... It is just not safe in big puls with loads of AoEs
    Holy and Gravity are ranged, not sure why we have to be that close...
    Holy is not ranged. AST is the only healer who gets to drop nova bombs from afar.
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  7. #17
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    Ki'shtola Si'shna
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    Midgardsormr
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    I just dont like that you need to be at melee range to do your AoE as a healer... It is just not safe in big puls with loads of AoEs
    Holy and Gravity are ranged, not sure why we have to be that close...
    Holy isn't ranged. It's just like AoW, but with a 8y radius, compare to AoW where it's 5y.
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  8. #18
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kishtola View Post
    Holy isn't ranged. It's just like AoW, but with a 8y radius, compare to AoW where it's 5y.
    AoW is also instant. Makes positioning for best use much easier. That's why it has a lower radius. Can also do AoW driveby nukes when trash spams markers, which would push a WHM out of range. We get to just drop the bomb and run.

    The new MP costs being reduced to match Holy for AoW and Gravity means they at least believe as we do, that Holy is the standard not the exception.
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  9. #19
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    Neriya Fior
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    Sargatanas
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    By a pack of enemies, I can't even tell in the visual chaos if my AoW went off other than watching my MP decrease. After leveling WHM and AST whose AoE attacks visually feel satisfying and hold some oomph both in attack effect and character animations, going back to SCH feels even more lackluster. Having my character kneel down into the crowd, disappearing in the mass of mobs, then stand back up, usually not even seeing the bland blue circle flash on the ground, it feels like I'm doing nothing. I understand, though don't agree with, taking away our larger set of abilities, but at least give us something equally satisfying and informative in visuals to what was removed.
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  10. #20
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    Winter Gem
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Art of War needs to upgrade into Miasma II as a one button combo via trait. That way our animation alternates from one to the other as we spam it to make us a bit more visually dynamic without any increase in difficulty. The Dot Timer could be adjusted to six seconds and it would be good to go.
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