Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Senn]

Just putting this out there:
Female viera height is 178cm-191.4cm / 5'8"-6'2"
Toru Rikiishi is 5'11" and 53kg / 116-117 lbs

Actually he went from 66kg to 53kg before the rematch. He was at least 5'11 so the strain on his body was great combined with intense weight-loss training and a fight with a powerful foe(Joe).
He actually died shortly after the match. If he was shorter like Joe(5'4), he would have had less trouble pulling off that weight and still retain muscle mass. This is common boxing mentality.

Toru Rikiishi was 5'11? Did I make a mistake? Gonna correct that.

[Halivel]

Interesting and it shows that the japanese do have a different view on body types.

Which was brought a lot of times by few people in this thread. (:
They also have different standart of beauty. What Japanese (or even Asian in general) auditory will consider as "handsome guy" often would look like "what is this petite kid doin here" for Europeans. Well, at least looking at what Europeans normally talk about bishounens (which means "handsome youth" literally).

[Mugear_bahamut]

Interesting and it shows that the japanese do have a different view on body types. I do think this would fit Vieras (maybe a bit longer to fit more with the females) since they have power and some muscles but are "slim" enough to be fast and silent protectors of the forest. The bulky art a few pages back is showing a viera who is probably even bulkier than Roes and imo not really something that would fit the look of the race (would just be another Au Ra difference imo) and would make it really hard to silently go around the forest.

Please SE in the end just give us a gender that fits with the females. That dont play with the tropes of females being the good looking slim ones while the males are hulks.

Yeah, the majority of the people in the Japanese forums were actually in favor of a shorter, slimmer body type for male Viera, until certain Balmung players
took over and (in the JP posters' words) "tried to force their image of male Viera with copyrighted art which are not even theirs".
Sorry Sen, this all happened after you linked the Japanese thread to the English thread.

[Senn]

Sorry Sen, this all happened after you linked the Japanese thread to the English thread.

Yep, I immediately regretted doing that. It was super embarrassing, especially when they posted only pictures without even trying to communicate in japanese.

[Alleo]

Which was brought a lot of times by few people in this thread. (:
They also have different standart of beauty. What Japanese (or even Asian in general) auditory will consider as "handsome guy" often would look like "what is this petite kid doin here" for Europeans. Well, at least looking at what Europeans normally talk about bishounens (which means "handsome youth" literally).

Oh I know. This is why I often pointed out that someone seeing something as classicaly handsome can mean something quite different depending on the culture/country. So its very difficult to even have a similiar taste in something like that and those saying that people hijack the race for their own view are just plain wrong. There is no hijacking a race with so many people having so many different views on it. And at least for me a protector of the forest does not need to be Conan or Rambo to do the job.

[Gwenorai]

You do realise that even with that body type, which most folks were fine with - he also described it as being 'muscular' and 'zero body fat' - this is why the image that was drawn and accepted by Matsumi is in no better words 'ripped'. I want toned muscles. I do not want a bodybuilder. Most boxers in the lightweight category are not massive, but they are extremely toned. They have to be because the strength of their punches comes from their muscles.

This is also why the image is drawn isn't a full-on match of Toru Rikiishi which was linked beforehand - which if you google by the way - has a very muscular/ripped body type - but isn't massive.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7B3z2wVqlE

This is actually more likely to what he was referencing, not that image that was linked to look very 'skinny' with zero muscle development. Misleading as heck.

[Mugear_bahamut]

You do realise that even with that body type, which most folks were fine with - he also described it as being 'muscular' and 'zero body fat' - this is why the image that was drawn and accepted by Matsumi is in no better words 'ripped'. I want toned muscles. I do not want a bodybuilder Most boxers in the lightweight category are not massive, but they are extremely toned. They have to be because the strength of their punches comes from their muscles.

That's a "want" not a "must".

[Gwenorai]

That's a "want" not a "must".

Yeah, that's why I said, 'want'... what are you getting at?

Also, you should go watch the live action movie of 'Tomorrow Joe' which actually is a better reference than the image you posted. He's not bulky, but he is 'ripped' in term of muscle development.

As for height, I wouldn't base height on the character that much. Toru Rikiishi is like what, 5'8-11 - that's maxed male midlander height - which is minimum Viera female height. It's not enough to go on, it could go so many ways.

[Mugear_bahamut]

This is also why the image is drawn isn't a full-on match of Toru Rikiishi which was linked beforehand - which if you google by the way - has a very muscular/ripped body type - but isn't massive.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7B3z2wVqlE

This is actually more likely to what he was referencing, not that image that was linked to look very 'skinny' with zero muscle development. Misleading as heck.

No this is the match. Rikiishi needed to lighten his weight to be able to compete with Joe.
And that video isn't a good reference. I am certain that a manga artist would better project his image of a character when he actually has full control.
Live action is less...controllable.

[SturmChurro]

I knew I was right! So this is exactly what we are getting. I should actually apply to SE NA or something.

Male viera sparring with a morbol.