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  1. #21881
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    KaleShibata's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Kyzunro Shibata
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    It's weird to see tanks lose aggro nowadays. I mean you gotta be really bad to manage that.
    Even worse when I can just do an AoE combo as a tank once and it takes...roughly 8 or more skill uses unopposed to begin tweaking the meter to a point I have to worry about it as a tank. I'm still mind boggled about a week ago I was informed (on the 77 dungeon i started off forgetting sync takes off tank stance. SE please) that someone had a tank who couldn't keep it with the stance ON.

    My disappointment is staggering...and its hilarious too in the case of the 77 the only reason i realized it wasn't on was because the black mage ripped aggro in 2 skills. it was mentioned in the 2 seconds it took me to register why but at the same time....thats hilarious. run was fine sailing afterward.
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  2. #21882
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    Hash_Browns's Avatar
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    Hash Browns
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    It's weird to see tanks lose aggro nowadays. I mean you gotta be really bad to manage that.
    I've seen this happen a few times where people will single target the hell out of an enemy & steal it from a tank. Not really an excuse, but I've seen it happen with a few enemies - usually in dungeons that have bigger models, where the tank can't really hit them all (level 79 dungeon, near the final boss of the dungeon is a good example.)
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  3. #21883
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    fogboundturtle's Avatar
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    Character
    Katagiri Katsumoto
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 58
    Tank runs it and picks up 3 different group while I was still prepping and die. He never did that again...I often get trigger happy tank when I use duty finder as a healer. I feel everyone is racing to the end while I am just trying to absorb what the dungeon has to offer.
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  4. #21884
    Player
    KaleShibata's Avatar
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    Kyzunro Shibata
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by fogboundturtle View Post
    Tank runs it and picks up 3 different group while I was still prepping and die. He never did that again...I often get trigger happy tank when I use duty finder as a healer. I feel everyone is racing to the end while I am just trying to absorb what the dungeon has to offer.
    Since I tank I tend to wait for everyone to be assembled before wandering off. if i note the healer seeming to be stopping after thinking I'm keeping going I take that as my cue to pull bigger. if i see them stop to deploy i stop with it. really is it so hard to keep your view backward facing to make sure the party is with you?
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  5. #21885
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    kidalutz's Avatar
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    Character
    Sigrun Helasdottir
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Syrun View Post
    Been leveling dancer over the past week and never really ran into any troublemakers until last night. So it begins by poofing in to Aurum Vale. No big deal. Dancer has AOE hell from early levels minus the aoe feather. For some reason DRK tank decided he wants to try to full clear the first room. Proceeds to pull almost the entire right side. I laughed a bit and thought to myself that this was gonna be a fun run. DNC AOE is fun to spam. So Edge Lord McSpikeyGround goes and does unleash and I smack on a Standard step and I now have 4 or 5 mobs out of a rather large AV first room group. Lets just say I melted faster than an ice cube out on the curb of a Louisiana summer.

    WIPE (to the first pull of the first room) This gon' be good.

    Myself and the healer asked the tank if there was a reason why they decided to go the long way and all we got was a "Yee."

    ROUND 2
    Tank decides to take the left path (mind you we are still in the first room of AV) and goes a little bit smaller. All seems well. I slam out a Standard finish, I start aoe'ing....HALF HEALTH. "Tank please pull back agro." "lol nobody died." Yeah because the healer was actually good and could take healing both myself and your derpy self.

    I was watching what the tank was doing and it was basically just unleash once and then single target until everything died. Didn't matter if it was a large or small pack so it usually ended up with me holding a few mobs for the entirety of every pull. I asked again if they could please do their job and all I got back was "lol You're paying me?" Right about that time is when I knew I was dealing with a child so I just dropped it. The attitude came off as If I would have said anything more, there was gonna be a report thrown my way. So basically just head down, Shut up, and get out.

    OH and some how I got called a toxic mentor for asking a tank to "Please take agro back." Literally the wording I used. Word for word. Is that really toxic?
    I'd have started a vote kick right then and there.
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

  6. #21886
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    Syrun's Avatar
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    Character
    Theia Hyskaris
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kidalutz View Post
    I'd have started a vote kick right then and there.
    I did but it didn't go through unfortunately.
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  7. #21887
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    Kanitezz's Avatar
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    Character
    Jubii Io
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by PharisHanasaki View Post
    Something that is happening more often than I would like is tanks in dungeons level 80 (or any dungeon when they aren't properly geared) pulling from wall to wall, me trying to keep them alive for more than 2 mins as AST, tank dies and then they start pulling like 1 mob at a time cuz they are mad. Why not pull 2/3 or 1/2 instead? We wiped cuz you pulled 14 enemies, not 3.
    They're not always "mad". Sometimes they realize they cant handle packs that big. Or they assume you can't (This isn't a poke at Pharis).
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  8. #21888
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    Averax's Avatar
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    Character
    Ven Black
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    I've seen this happen a few times where people will single target the hell out of an enemy & steal it from a tank. Not really an excuse, but I've seen it happen with a few enemies - usually in dungeons that have bigger models, where the tank can't really hit them all (level 79 dungeon, near the final boss of the dungeon is a good example.)
    I haven't been able to manage something like that even on dancer when i managed to get both technical step and standard step off on the same target that the tank wasn't on.
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  9. #21889
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    Hash_Browns's Avatar
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    Hash Browns
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    I haven't been able to manage something like that even on dancer when i managed to get both technical step and standard step off on the same target that the tank wasn't on.
    I have no idea then. I've been leveling up my SCH while my friend has been leveling DRG, and every once in a while he complaining about stealing aggro.
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  10. #21890
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    foussi's Avatar
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    Character
    Magnus Avalon
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Huh
    Is it normal that white mages only spam vita?
    Like only vita, no dps skills inbetween.
    Got haukke mansion(normal version) in leveling duty roullette and we had a white mage who seemingly only used vita -_-
    Our tank died like 2 times and the white mage says that the tank takes too much damage .
    And when we reached the final boss, thats where the healer started to use the aoe healing skill.

    Not sure if this was a troll.
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    Last edited by foussi; 07-11-2019 at 07:19 AM.

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