FFXIV 2.0 sounds good but...

[Allistar]

I'm sorry but did you drop on your head? If they did a complete wipe it will piss alot of ppl who have stayed while SE try to fix this mess. What's the point of playn now if you know everything you have done was all for nothing. I'm about to pay just so my character can be wipe at 2.0 really? GTFO.

All I really cared about was your opinion on the matter...if you would support it or not...I understand that the majority of the playerbase will be up in arms...but I'm just thinking...if they wipe and lose 15k but gain 40k wouldn't they still benifit...like I said it is my opionion...

[Antanias]

We'll get to keep our characters, items, and gil. Think this was stated in the 2.0 pdfs as well as some Yoshida interviews that were translated.

[Elexia]

All I really cared about was your opinion on the matter...if you would support it or not...I understand that the majority of the playerbase will be up in arms...but I'm just thinking...if they wipe and lose 15k but gain 40k wouldn't they still benifit...like I said it is my opionion...

Yeah, I get the attachment to your character but sometimes the benefits far outweighs the losses, not to mention back when I had my main character it was a grind to get to even rank (at the time!) 10, now it takes only 1 leve and a few mobs to kill, so honestly..

[Yellow]

For the sake of the people who have spent ages playing this game and building up their character, I would hate for all of that to have been a waste of time.

I don't think it's fair for some people to have to restart their characters because someone with one class at level 11 thinks there should be a reboot.

If you want a reboot, delete your character and remake it~

Plus it wouldn't be very fair to tell everyone they've changed their mind and are going to wipe all the characters, after they said they wouldn't.. not to mention that this whole P2P period would be a complete waste of money.

[Zeref]

It does make sense from a development perspective -- However from a community perspective people will be complaining non-stop so they want to avoid that. This is why I'm not fully hopeful over 2.0 the more I think about the fact we'll retain our data, because that means they aren't fully overhauling the foundation for the better, they're only doing it on a surface level in order to allow us to keep our data intact.

Not necessarily, you should consider the fact they are building the new engine from the scratch and have full data on the old engine, meaning they're fully capable of creating an entirely new foundation and creating a tool that would allow them to transfer base stats over, they could change the way the entire combat system operates, down to the very core, and still retain all your stats without problems.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

I can not find it right now, but did it not say something like "you will retain your progress in a way" or it was worded in a similar fashion. If someone could pull up the quote about 2.0 and our transfer, I need to go do bed ;p

[Technolust]

Its almost like saying I'll get remarried...but I still want to sleep with my ex-wife...??? A whole new life...a new world...a brand new begining...we'll never get the full experience of 2.0 if we're allowed to bring all our old baggage from this version of the game...but thats just my opinion.

Seriously? How can you even came up with this analogy is beyond me... Releasing version 2.0 is not like getting remarried and still wanting to sleep with your wife. If anything it's like taking your wife in for a boob job, nose lift, tummy tuck and the likes. The foundation of your relationship is still there.

If they wiped character data after version 2.0 I'd quite in a heartbeat. I've spent time, energy, money on the development of my character, who are you to turn around and say, to bad, so sad, you'll lose everything.

I love playing the game as it is now, I've got a ton of things to still keep me busy. When 2.0 rolls around, I'll still get the full experience, because not everything will be new. It's the same game, just going to be after a cataclysmic event that reshapes the world at it's very core.

I'm excited.

[lackofwords]

A full reset/reroll makes sense in terms of allowing "fairness" for players who have just started playing. It would also create an easier learning curve for existing players.

However, the learning curve for me is not that extreme that a player can not figure out what to do if the system has changed on them. Such as, would it benefit you as an existing player for them to have a full reset/reroll everytime they've changed the battle system or crafting system? Or a more familiar experience for some, would you have a lot more trouble picking up a FFXI max level job you haven't played before, oppose to playing it at level 20? Maybe you would or maybe not.

At the moment, I'm assuming they are trying to ease us into the new system. By the time the 2.0 comes out it wouldn't be too different from the existing game play. Wiping everything now or later would not benefit my game play at all, only punishes me to spend a lot more time to replay everything once again. At least that's how I honestly feel.

Take a look at other games who wipes progress on new games+. Most of them offer you some sort of benefit or illusion of benefit from previous progress. No one wants to feel like their previous progress meant nothing.

[SilvertearRen]

It does make sense from a development perspective -- However from a community perspective people will be complaining non-stop so they want to avoid that. This is why I'm not fully hopeful over 2.0 the more I think about the fact we'll retain our data, because that means they aren't fully overhauling the foundation for the better, they're only doing it on a surface level in order to allow us to keep our data intact.

Actually, all of the character data we have are just inventory data, customization data, quest data...all stored information in a database. You just need to convert that data to a compatible format for 2.0 and you're good. The entire backend is probably getting overhauled, but being programmed with an eye on ensuring backwards-compatibility with the old database.

I know this because I've experimented with private servers in the past, and they are often done using emulators that make use of mySQL databases to track all of the appropriate information.

[Elexia]

Actually, all of the character data we have are just inventory data, customization data, quest data...all stored information in a database. You just need to convert that data to a compatible format for 2.0 and you're good. The entire backend is probably getting overhauled, but being programmed with an eye on ensuring backwards-compatibility with the old database.

I'm pretty sure this is what she was referring to that they're not doing everything they could possible if they want to keep things working between the engines, since instead of fully overhauling it they're doing it while being mindful of old data, instead of focusing on completely new assets, the latter obviously being overall better.

Though as for private servers, this purely depends on what you're regarding because eathena for example was more of a emulator, the one for TERA as well is more of a emulator and not necessarily the same tree or software that is used on official servers, like there's no way to know SE would be using the exact same setup otherwise FFXI and XIV would already have private servers even ignoring Playonline which is all but phased out for the most part.