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  1. #21
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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Taisai Jin
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    Twintania
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    Lancer Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    Are there other types of heals? Of course, you can see them in other games.... but with the way things have gone, I'm not sure the team can handle a new healing variable very well...
    Only idea for a gimmick for a new healer I can think of is one that converts damage into DoTs, although in all honestly I could slap that on Astrologian just so Nocturnal Sect isn't knock-off Scholar anymore.

    For it's own Job though, I think it's a solid gimmick to potentially build off of, but balancing might be hard... It's Adloquium/Aspected Benefic equivalent would apply a shield that absorbs damage and inflicts a DoT based on the damage taken (simple example; The shield absorbs 100 damage, inflicts a 30s DoT, that's 10 damage/tic). Could have different levels of that, so one spell applies a short duration DoT (in which case each tic would likely be higher potency) while another inflicts a longer potency one (high amount of damage spread over a longer duration, each tic would be weaker). Could have a special Esuna type ability to just delete the DoT, effectively meaning it was just an Adlo style shield, heck even a Bane style ability to spread it onto the entire party to reduce each tic?

    Really though, since it's not actually healing damage, but rather delaying it... That really fits with Astrologian IMO... Heck it's literally the exact opposite of Diurnal Sect, applying a DoT rather than a Regen... Too perfect...
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    It might be just wild speculation, but I strongly believe that them moving WHM away from aspected spells with Glare and Dia is basically groundwork for a GEO healer in the future, and it would use water aspected to heal and other aspected spells to dps.
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  3. #23
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    Tal Young
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    For example... SPOILERS for Gunbreaker Lore

    The Gunblade that gunbreaker use are the ORIGINAL gunblades designed to use Magical Ammo to create the explosions from the hits and other magical aspect attacks and the Garlean gunblades are considered cheap knock offs of the Gunblades being just Guns with long blades attached to them. Though that means Garlean Gunblades fight more like Lightning's Gunblade while these original Gunblades fight more like Squall's Gunblade.


    Though this does give SE a open to introduce Garlean Gunblades for a different Job (hopefully DPS) and call their Gunblade something different such as "Gunedge".
    Funnily enough

    despite the claim in the GNB quests (and by Yoshi-P himself in an interview IIRC) that Garlean gunblades are just guns with blades attached, the game itself doesn't really do much to actually support that assertion.

    Garlean Gunblade users in-game have a rather unique fighting style made up of lots of dashing in and out of melee, summoning X shaped magitek projectiles around the arena, and spreading copious amounts of ceruleum fueled fire everywhere.

    The Garlean gunblade user you fight in the Gunbreaker 70 quest (using the heavier 2 handed gunblade style) is a decent example of the Imperial style in action, and it looks like it has potential to be a very interesting DPS job with a bit of fleshing out. Good opportunity to give those melee DPS that want a heavy two handed sword job what they want too.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 07-03-2019 at 12:25 AM.

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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    GEO as a melee hammer healer who "creates" terrain that buffs or alters their heals as they stand in it would be legit, ngl. If it's repurposed CNJ though hard pass.
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  5. #25
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    Taylor Swiftsong
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    Mateus
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yawnie View Post
    Give us a Songstress please! Though I have a feeling SE is gonna take a loooong time to balance the healers (if at all).
    God yes. All I want is one music-themed healer. Please make it happen.
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    Theji'a Majoh
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    Ragnarok
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    I can see Geomancer happening with a strong elemental theme.
    Removing Stone, Aero and moving WHM fully into "light" magic is quite fishy.
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    Mimi Peach
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougarel View Post
    They need to balance the 3 healers we have now before even thinking about adding a new one.
    I thought that's what they did this expansion
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    Gwenyth Lightbringer
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    They need to fix the healers they screwed up first
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    Dami Nicha
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    Coeurl
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    I have absolutely no faith in getting a new healer or them balancing healers in a meaningful way.
    If I get surprised, well yay, but at this moment their excuses and changes to healers have only been disappointing to me.
    Although I am disenchanted, others may not be, so it really doesn't matter anyway.
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    Coeurl - Astrologian - Wannabe Fisher

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    Edwin Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    It's not going to happen - GNB is the gunblade Job, be happy we got that (I mean, the starting GNB weapon is basically a Garlean gunblade anyway - it just looks like the hrothgar modified it so that the chamber no longer is connected to the barrel, which makes sense lore wise). Chemist I really only see with a name that is actually not Chemist (as it's too close to the existing Alchemist class and would be too confusing) - maybe something like Apothocerian, or maybe Medican?
    This is a rather Yes and No answer due to what the Lore introduced about the differences in the REAL Gunblades and the garlean Gunblades.

    As the lore states...

    the Garlean Gunblades are just copies of the real gunblades made more as Guns with extended Blades attached to them. Their appearance is expect to look close to real Gunblades but modified to have working gun barrels.

    It is a rather interest Lore because it establish the Gunblade used by Gunbreakers and the Gunblades used by Garleans as separate weapons where Gunbreaker Gunblades are more designed purely for melee combat due to focusing more on using the Magic Ammos to create their melee explosions but Garlean Gunblades are designed to use their Ammo for range combat and to fire during close range combat if they can get a clear shot.

    We can basically separate them lore wise as Squall's Gunblade being Gunbreaker's Gunblade and Lightning's Gunblade being the Garlean Gunblades.

    I am rather facinated with what this lore can be used to add into the Garlean Gunblade's lore with development and differences between the two weapons in combat use.
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