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  1. #21
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    Loki's Avatar
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    Loki Vanheim
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    Spriggan
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    Scholar Lv 90
    SInce shadowbringers i noticed my fairy was stressed she casts non stop and her cures sux....
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  2. #22
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    AureliaF's Avatar
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    Hemera Viatoir
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    Excalibur
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    Astrologian Lv 91
    Nice post OP, I agree totally. I was waiting to see how the combat played out with SCH and healers in general before making a decision on purchasing the expansion, and I'm glad I waited. I'll keep an eye on changes in upcoming patches and possibly change my mind in the future, but for now, I'm cancelling my sub. There's other games out there with a much more engaging playstyle for support classes than 5.0 SCH, which I hate saying, because I enjoyed pre-Shb healing in FF14. And I've heard that the Shb MSQ is incredible, so I hate to miss that! And I wish everyone fun times that are enjoying the changes but for me, I'll vote with my wallet and maybe it'll help. Here's hoping for some swift changes to the healer experience going forward!
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  3. #23
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    Ruzha's Avatar
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    Ruzha Crowley
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 71
    honestly, i dont know why they put fairy action on the main keybinds anyway. They wanted to reduce skillbloat but decided to remove some good stuff and just have the fairy abilities on the hotbar? I understand with SMN. and but it just seems trashy with SCH. because you could put the fairy stuff on the hotbar anyway?

    why did they get rid of some healer dps buttons anyway? it doesn't matter if players of lower skill to have them on their hotbar or not? it just punishes people who like busywork/complexity.
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    Last edited by Ruzha; 07-02-2019 at 03:57 PM. Reason: forgot some

  4. #24
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    NobleWinter's Avatar
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    Winter Gem
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Art of War is incredibly expensive to cast but it wouldn't be so bad if we had another AoE dot like Miasma II. Call it something like: "War of Attrition" or "Forced Surrender" and make it cost 400 mp with a six second duration so we swap back and forth with Art of War for more engaging game play and easier mp management. It doesn't even need to be a separate button. Just make Art of War change into War of Attrition after each use for a single button combo via trait for the brain dead. Art of War spam as it is now just feels horrible.
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  5. #25
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruzha View Post
    honestly, i dont know why they put fairy action on the main keybinds anyway. They wanted to reduce skillbloat but decided to remove some good stuff and just have the fairy abilities on the hotbar? I understand with SMN. and but it just seems trashy with SCH. because you could put the fairy stuff on the hotbar anyway?

    why did they get rid of some healer dps buttons anyway? it doesn't matter if players of lower skill to have them on their hotbar or not? it just punishes people who like busywork/complexity.
    This is something I don't get as well. I assume they're under the impression that being a Healer is hard so they thought to reduce the complexity of the jobs, but healing has never been hard in any capacity? I felt that healers while unbalanced in SB had a nice medium between being easy to pick up but rewarding to master. A lower skill player who never touched Savage would be okay mostly healing with the occasional DPS spell, where as those who tried to master more could /excel/ and fell very satisfied with their work - at least with AST and SCH. I don't know why they got this idea in their head that healers needed to be simplified especially when most WHM players I've met pre-ShB were wanting more complexity themselves and for the class to be buffed to stand toe to toe with the other two.

    Now instead of having three fairly accessible but difficult to fully master classes we have three brain dead, homogenized classes. I healed all the way up to the end of the game today and I've just been /bored/. The only time I feel any panic is due to the MP situation SCH is currently facing - and you know how I mitigate that? I stop casting for 10 seconds to get my MP back if Lucid and Aether are on cooldown. So I now have even more downtime that I did previously. It's just not a good look for healers right now...
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  6. #26
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    Alisi's Avatar
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    Tempest Deep
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    Twintania
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    I'm only 77. I don't really want to speak on the healing. Thus far, I'm adequate enough to keep parties alive. I'm using SCH on my way through the MSQ and it's SO boring. It's basically a one button class. ;=; It's like broil-broil-broil with a bio every 30 seconds. I feel like a bad sch of days gone by. I find myself bored in dungeons too, where the party is basically decent players. I hope this gets better.
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  7. #27
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    Videra Svenay
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 83
    Why can't I hold all this overhealing?
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  8. #28
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    Daws's Avatar
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    Midnight Risk
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    Faerie
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Bugs aside, if they gave us back Energy Drain or some new non-heal aetherflow dump, then I'd be happy. Maybe a second dot actually.
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    “There are no rules of architecture for a castle in the clouds.”

  9. #29
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    Rubiss Tantegel
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 90
    To the absolute surprise of no one, SCH sucks. Maybe we have to wait for Savage? Maybe Ultimate? Just preemptively throwing out what the whiteknights are going to say. Imagine thinking we couldn't understand tootips. We all knew this was going to be crap and sure enough, it is. Absolutely amazing.

    1. Give us Energy Drain or something similar that does damage and consumes Aetherflow. We don't need to use every stack on a healing ability. We never will. Ever. Please understand this. Players will ALWAYS optimize fights. If content truly needed us to use every stack, no casual could ever play this game. It's not happening. Even in UCoB, the average SCH uses 40% of their Aetherflow stacks on Energy Drain. It's basic math and common sense at this point.

    2. Art of War's cost is fine, permitted we get Energy Drain back. If not, it needs to go down. Furthermore, I don't know why we always have to stand in melee range for it. It's dumb. We're a caster. Why are we in melee range to use an AoE? Consider this. Would BLM be more fun if Fire 2 had a cast range of 5y? How about Gravity? It's dumb. Why is it melee? It sucks as melee.

    3. Fairies are so slow to use their skills. The Scholar raises their hand first, then the fairy uses the move. It's oGCD isn't it? Why not just have it apply instantly like others? It's a minor complaint but I guess we have to account for that when using it, so it's semi-tactical? More nitpicky really.

    4. Aetherflow should be usable outside of combat. Ever kill an enemy just as Aetherflow came off cooldown? Enjoy staring at. It just feels clunky and bad. If they're worried about pre-pull I mean, Ninja's mudras have no recast time out of combat when you use hide. It's just bad.

    5. Fey Blessing is trash. It's just really bad. You have to double weave it for it be decent. It's a weak skill and heals for so little, I'm not even sure why it's here. Just remove it. Don't buff it. We have enough healing tools. Just remove it. Maybe bundle a weaker version of it with Whispering Dawn and make it cost Fairy gauge.
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    Last edited by Rubiss; 07-03-2019 at 10:13 AM. Reason: Grammar bad

  10. #30
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    Deceptus Keelon
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    The Fairy AI is just as bad as ever. Not responsive, "Can't do that until previous is complete" Takes a server tick to apply fey union and fey blessing still.

    Physic cures like a wet noodle and the fairy is slow to embrace. Seriously, Physic needs some love.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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