Goodbye to the lots of you come thursday

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

See all the fun stuff I missed out on!

I had a different (shorter) adventure... which is not fabulous enough or SE-sanctioned enough to be relayed here, har har!

[TheVedis]

No no no, I agree completely, you see if it was Salvage duplication like the timeline fits, the player was in clear violation of the TOS, but that dosen't mean I don't think players who mistakenly might fall into something SE deems illegal shouldn't have some way to say they are innocent... is the point I am trying to make.

the problem is, you agree in the TOS of every mmo out there that the company is allowed to remove you from their game for any reason they deem fit. and that you do not have the right to protest it.
they do allow you to try and get it back of course, but thats still up to them and no matter what they decide you have no legal recourse because you did in fact agree to such terms when you sign up for the game(and every time the game is patched it pretty much makes you agree to it again in most cases)

99% of the time, when someone gets unjustly banned its not hard to call customer service to try and get it undone. problem is you get these idiots who call their lawyers first thinking they may have found a payday(such as with this lawsuit) instead of going through proper channels first.

[Scherwiz]

the problem is, you agree in the TOS of every mmo out there that the company is allowed to remove you from their game for any reason they deem fit. and that you do not have the right to protest it.
they do allow you to try and get it back of course, but thats still up to them and no matter what they decide you have no legal recourse because you did in fact agree to such terms when you sign up for the game(and every time the game is patched it pretty much makes you agree to it again in most cases)

99% of the time, when someone gets unjustly banned its not hard to call customer service to try and get it undone. problem is you get these idiots who call their lawyers first thinking they may have found a payday(such as with this lawsuit) instead of going through proper channels first.

It is my experience that you get different answers from different levels of SE reps. A GM told me from another account I was banned for 3 days. A Customer service rep told a friend they would be banned permanently, (for the same warning as I got) yet she's still playing. Square Enix has no consistancy in how they investigate and especially how they deem who is banned and who isn't.

[TheVedis]

It is my experience that you get different answers from different levels of SE reps. A GM told me from another account I was banned for 3 days. A Customer service rep told a friend they would be banned permanently, yet shes still playing.

yeah, sometimes the different branches see different info based on what access they have to your accounts, in these cases the people in charge(their supervisors) are the ones who have full access to info.

it doesnt make alot of sense, but ive noticed this trend with every game ive been on, which has been quite a few

the whole savlage debacle sounds very similar to blizzards rmt policy, which is to ban every account that has over a certain ammount of gold on it on a monthly basis regardless of proof of rmt activity(usualy you get unbanned when you make some calls to get it done)

i had a friend, who was a 100% legit player, who had 7 toons with capped gold over there...and he got hit by this every single month lol

[Scherwiz]

A healthy nonargumental debate on these forums, I am quite proud of those engaged in it. Thank You all^^

[Corrderio]

Oh right that lawsuit. I do agree that SE really does have a strange way of how they handle inactive accounts.

[TheVedis]

Oh right that lawsuit. I do agree that SE really does have a strange way of how they handle inactive accounts.

which was swiftly changed, i had an inactive account on and off over there and i never got charged those extra fees
it was a very very early billing thing they had at the launch of the game that was removed shortly after due to sheer ammount of complaints about it

[Corrderio]

which was swiftly changed, i had an inactive account on and off over there and i never got charged those extra fees
it was a very very early billing thing they had at the launch of the game that was removed shortly after due to sheer ammount of complaints about it

True. I think that restoration service also became a result of that lawsuit as well.

[TheVedis]

True. I think that restoration service also became a result of that lawsuit as well.

yeah, the lawsuit wasnt gonna win that was obvious, they had done nothing wrong legaly, but they did see that what they were doing would cause mopre harm then good so it was changed


even the restoration syste, was dismissed in time and you could just go back(like now)



on a side note, there have been several; games recently who have tried to quote this as a lawsuit they were gonna base theirs on if it was succesful, which is why it was such a big deal, i firmly believe still that if this lawsuit had been succesfuly MMOs would have become extinct

[Masamune1004]

I miss all the fabulous, but I'm glad this thread stayed off-topic (if there ever was a topic)