Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Anselmet]

Just because things are changing or being removed doesnt make the mentality suddenly true. There's some blatantly false things being said about Lucid as it is now before the 24h are through.


More concerning, there are some blatantly false things being said about "meta groups" and "pre-made parties" here, and i dont think the ability to party together is being removed.

I think the main issue here is someone is not as skilled as they seem to think in their head, they're getting called out, and bruised egos are known for their ability to quietly ride off into the sunset with grace and dignity, eh?

Damn, truest statement of the night.

[Dualblade]

I didn't mean to stay up this late on the last day of Stormblood.

I also didn't think I'd spend my last hour it was up doing The Burn, but I did. Low DPS combined with Holy Spam=low MP for me.

We also wiped to the dragon a couple times. But eh, coulda been worse. Could have not finished before maint started!

[Anselmet]

I didn't mean to stay up this late on the last day of Stormblood.

I also didn't think I'd spend my last hour it was up doing The Burn, but I did. Low DPS combined with Holy Spam=low MP for me.

We also wiped to the dragon a couple times. But eh, coulda been worse. Could have not finished before maint started!

That was Stormblood's final goodbye to you. It ain't pleasant but that's what I got too cept I was in omega 11 as a sch bc I wanted to enjoy it for the last time before being stripped of dps. Now I haven't done omega 11 in eons because I have long since geared all my classes. So I asked, "Hey which side is larboard and starboard? It's been awhile." A blm said, "You should know mechanics by now." and apparently the mt agreed for they pulled right after. At the first larboard and starboard, it became abundantly clear that someone should have dropped which way to go for what skill bc everyone except the blm, the tanks, and myself (I went with my gut that larboard = go left if the boss is facing away) were hit twice and died. I rez'd my cohealer before working on the rest of the dps. Things were normal for the most part until the dps check. Due to death sickness, we had to lb. Afterwards, people were stacking circles on each other and dying left and right. My cohealer exploded again by standing in the giant fist's aoe path. The ot didn't take the second mustard bomb away which made me hard rez'ing a nightmare selene super esuna saved the day (may this skill rip). My mana began to run dry and due to my own stupidity, I will admit I let the mt die and luckily I had lucid dreaming off cd and saved myself bc the boss wanted to rip my face off. Lb3 and we continue on only for the same people who kept dying to be killed at almost every starboard/larboard. I legit have no idea how we did not wipe. The kicker is the same blm pipes in and is like that's why we know mechanics ast. The blm... yelled at the ast who didn't even ask the question in the first place. And to be fair, the ast did catch on somewhat at the end but it could have all went smoother if the blm just said larboard = left if boss is facing away or something. Not, learn 2 git gud.

Can't wait for shadowbringers. Going dps and making Alphinaud heal my butt.

[Fluffernuff]

If we're sharing our lest DF experience, mine was pleasant. A friend and I decided to run o5, since it was the first time we did serious raiding together. unfortunately, no way anyone was doing o5s last minute for the kicks, so we ran normal.

well the group ended up being us 2 and a group of friends (or so they claimed) as a bunch of first times. well o5n isnt exactly punishing, so the pull goes off without a hitch. really clean really standard clear. the only notable oddity was a few of them not jumping in a ghost after the chimney phase. luckily, my friend and I cleared our ghosts within a couple globals and saved them. 'twas a pretty ok run to end off on, all things considered

[Hash_Browns]

Oh baby, I love the enmity discussion.

As someone who players both healer & tank.

1. It's not solely the tanks responsibility to control their aggro. If you are a DPS with aggro tools, you should be controlling yours as well. Their is a reason Diversion is part of the opener of.. I dunno.. ALL CLASSES THAT HAVE THE SKILL.

2. Lucid Dreaming most likely shouldn't be used to lower your aggro. This is especially true on AST, where Lucid is used in combination with Celestial Op to get a good chunk of MP. Although, if you have aggro as a healer it most likely means you are either overhealing, or you put regen on the tank pre-pull, in which case you deserve a love tap from whatever enemies aggro onto you. Lucid is usually used when you reach about 75% of your MP anyways on cooldown, so if you manage to rip aggro from the tank during that, something is wrong.

[Noitems]

No? Because people not knowing openers will still be a thing. DPS treating threat meters like DPS meters are still going to be a thing. The problem will just be on the tanks now. Not using their tank stance ability to generate more threat on cooldown.

This entirely. The biggest boon I currently see with the new tanking system is that new players will understand how to tank better with the stances being at lvl 10. It won't tell them the optimized way but hopefully it promotes a best behavior mentality to keep aggro in check. Especially if a job like a RDM in is in Satasha where they pull aggro in seconds even with a tank using aggro generators due to their attacks.

The feeling of going to a dungeon like the Burn or Ghimlyt as a BLM using diversion and STILL getting aggro because a tank isn't optimizing on aggro control is just a bad experience. Now with that stripped from both heals and DPS tanks WILL need to get this down or else every dungeon will be a nightmare with aggro being ping ponged between tank and dps.

Hell we also need to address a recurring issue in this thread during Stormblood and that's being completly undergeared for the content you're running. We have enough issues with tanks/heals running in Shire gear to Castrum Abania barely living. We'll be entering a new layer of this thread when 5.0 hits with that being a main issue.

[Kaylessa]

2. Lucid Dreaming most likely shouldn't be used to lower your aggro. This is especially true on AST, where Lucid is used in combination with Celestial Op to get a good chunk of MP. Although, if you have aggro as a healer it most likely means you are either overhealing, or you put regen on the tank pre-pull, in which case you deserve a love tap from whatever enemies aggro onto you. Lucid is usually used when you reach about 75% of your MP anyways on cooldown, so if you manage to rip aggro from the tank during that, something is wrong.

Yes 100%, that’s really nice advice for healers, with occasional exceptions like fights with enmity resets (O4S). But they’re fairly rare and most of the community don’t do them so definitely as a general rule of thumb, yours is really nice advice. Advice which becomes even more important in the duty finder where a healer’s mp is even harder to manage.

Healers tend to receive really bad advice from people in the community who don't heal main. This time the dodgy advice on when healers should use lucid might stem from lucid being a skill enjoyed by both casters and healers, and casters often wouldn’t realize just how important the skill is for proper healer mp management (essential).

Anyway with the new tank system, I thought tanks would enjoy the idea that the more DPS they do the more enmity they produce? I don’t like the current enmity system purely because of my experiences in the duty finder with main tanks generating aggro, but I would have thought this new way of generating enmity would please more people than it has. Because the better you are at your DPS combos the better you will be as a tank and the easier you’ll hold aggro. And as a tank you’re directly responsible for your enmity in stead of relying on others, and you can generate enmity without gimping your DPS.

[AngelCheese77]

2. Lucid Dreaming most likely shouldn't be used to lower your aggro. This is especially true on AST, where Lucid is used in combination with Celestial Op to get a good chunk of MP. Although, if you have aggro as a healer it most likely means you are either overhealing, or you put regen on the tank pre-pull, in which case you deserve a love tap from whatever enemies aggro onto you. Lucid is usually used when you reach about 75% of your MP anyways on cooldown, so if you manage to rip aggro from the tank during that, something is wrong.

Well, it lost it's aggro this patch

[Missy_Missy]

Took my daughter through some low levelling roulette dungeons this evening, so she can level archer. She's been a BLM before, I've done healing and her dad's been the tank. Her dad's off on a business trip so she decided it was time to do something a bit different (although she's only played a week). Suffice it to say, she now really respects her dad's awesome tankiness (and her mum's mostly acceptable healing).

Not PF related story but I do love seeing/hearing family that plays together XD.

Ha!..I've been playing this game for so long and just decided to make an acct here just to reply to this!!
Me and the hub made our daughter a char with the free trial.. She played arc for a bit but wanted to do smn for her to have "her own pet". She didn't do much with playing but mostly hanging out at mom and dad's house and sometimes the FC house ^-^; ...

[Cylestea]

Last night did a nice send off with a Drk only 24 man capped at lvl 50 for world of darkness. was the best send off i have ever been apart of took us about 45 min total. its amazing to see the community working together to do this and welcoming in a new expac.