unlimited frame rate option has been removed from the client on 5.0

[WaterShield]

Apples to oranges. The more apt comparison would be downgrading from PS4 Pro to PS4. Which, while inconvenient, isn't game breaking in the slightest.

As to the other replies, well, it's jarring to "downgrade" to 90 FPS (I can't help but laugh as I write that), but really, it's, well, hard to put into words. You're all really not all that hard done by. I do hope this gets reverted for everyone affected, but let's stop treating this like the world is ending.

Translation "I don't value this, so it's preposterous that people should be upset."

I will be incensed if it is a 90 FPS hard cap for everyone.

[Arrhin]

Translation "I don't value this, so it's preposterous that people should be upset."

I will be incensed if it is a 90 FPS hard cap for everyone.

I'm running at 60Hz, so not applicable to me. But I understand the sentiment and I share your rage. If this is due to something tied to physics then let those of us that want to exceed 90fps deal with that issue. If it's due to the botting issue whereby they can use high framerates to somehow get OOB, then git gud and write tighter code, hire more GM's with all that sub monies we gives ya and deal wit the issue proper like

[Kougeru]

If it's due to the botting issue whereby they can use high framerates to somehow get OOB, then git gud and write tighter code, hire more GM's with all that sub monies we gives ya and deal wit the issue proper like

That's literally not how "code" works. Some things are due to the engine. And this game was originally made in 2010. there's only so much that can be "fixed". Especially without breaking other things. This is a simple fix that hurts like 5% of players

[Insertcoins]

Translation "I don't value this, so it's preposterous that people should be upset."

I will be incensed if it is a 90 FPS hard cap for everyone.

I get what he's saying... To use a more open example.

Rich person. " NOOO I lost 5k this morning while swimming in my money pool of 100,000,000,000,000. I'm super pissed.
Poor person. " Seriously? Why should I feel sorry for you? "

Yes being hard capped at 90FPS would be a bad more for SE to do.. but you can't expect people who've never been that high to care. If you've only been capped at 60 or worst yet.. 30 complaining to them being capped at a rate higher then theirs is pointless.

[WaterShield]

I get what he's saying... To use a more open example.

Rich person. " NOOO I lost 5k this morning while swimming in my money pool of 100,000,000,000,000. I'm super pissed.
Poor person. " Seriously? Why should I feel sorry for you? "

Yes being hard capped at 90FPS would be a bad more for SE to do.. but you can't expect people who've never been that high to care. If you've only been capped at 60 or worst yet.. 30 complaining to them being capped at a rate higher then theirs is pointless.

I don't expect them to care. I especially don't expect them to come spit in my face, because they don't like other people having nicer things than them?

[Eli85]

I don't expect them to care. I especially don't expect them to come spit in my face, because they don't like other people having nicer things than them?

If you read people—like me—having a hard time taking the way these complaints seriously as a "spit in your face," then you're just adding words to our mouths. It's not that we want you deprived of nice things, but it's the hyperbolic reaction of three times the console FPS being unacceptable, unplayable, ridiculous etc. It's an extreme over reaction that borders on comical.

[WaterShield]

If you read people—like me—having a hard time taking the way these complaints seriously as a "spit in your face," then you're just adding words to our mouths. It's not that we want you deprived of nice things, but it's the hyperbolic reaction of three times the console FPS being unacceptable, unplayable, ridiculous etc. It's an extreme over reaction that borders on comical.

So again, you are trying to de legitimize a complaint because you never had the thing, so us being upset is comical to you.

If someone stole your car, and then returned a different car to you that was almost half as expensive... would you not be angry. I mean... you don't neeed the nice thing you worked hard for. But that's ok, so long as you have what you "NEED".

Why not take it a step further. Make everything be rationed out by the government while you're at it. Want to eat more because you are hungry? Too bad, this chart shows the minimum needed amount of food for your body type and that's what you get. Oh, and you get to work twice as hard for it as other people. Because why should anyone be rewarded for what they do?

TLDR: You are seriously saying that my hard earned purchase means nothing, because how dare I have it better than you.

[Eli85]

So again, you are trying to de legitimize a complaint because you never had the thing, so us being upset is comical to you.

If someone stole your car, and then returned a different car to you that was almost half as expensive... would you not be angry. I mean... you don't neeed the nice thing you worked hard for. But that's ok, so long as you have what you "NEED".

Why not take it a step further. Make everything be rationed out by the government while you're at it. Want to eat more because you are hungry? Too bad, this chart shows the minimum needed amount of food for your body type and that's what you get. Oh, and you get to work twice as hard for it as other people. Because why should anyone be rewarded for what they do?

TLDR: You are seriously saying that my hard earned purchase means nothing, because how dare I have it better than you.

The mental gymnastics you're doing to make these audacious claims are just as bad as the ridiculous exaggerations that are made in this thread. At this point I think you're deliberately not seeing the point to be argumentative. So once again: is the decrease frames bad? Yes. No dispute. Is it an "unacceptable solution or experience"? No. Not even close. The problem is the hyperbole, and it's amazing so many people can't see that.

It's a technical problem that is hampering the enjoyment of the game by a subset of legitimate players. It sure as hell is going to affect mine after 6 years of being uncapped. I'll agree that people saying it's "unplayable" are being hyperbolic, but "unacceptable" and "ridiculous" are 100% valid given that it has been uncapped up until now.

Just because it isn't a problem for you doesn't mean it isn't a problem or that it should be brushed aside.

I already said that I hope the fix gets reversed so that players can go back to their desired FPS. What I find confuddling is the exaggerated overreaction, which I do credit that you acknowledged. So I hope it gets fixed, but let's not scream the sky is falling because PC players have to deal with a horrendous 90 FPS.

[Lumis_Arvalo]

I already said that I hope the fix gets reversed so that players can go back to their desired FPS. What I find confuddling is the exaggerated overreaction, which I do credit that you acknowledged. So I hope it gets fixed, but let's not scream the sky is falling because PC players have to deal with a horrendous 90 FPS.

90 FPS isn't horrendous, but it is objectively worse than 120+ when you've been used to that for 6 years at this point. I'm not saying the sky is falling, but a 25-30% reduction in FPS is going to be incredibly jarring for players regardless of what FPS you're talking about. If SE had capped it at 45 from 60, almost everyone would be up in arms about it and rightfully so. It 100% is going to heavily dampen the enjoyment of the game for myself and a number of others in this thread it seems, and frankly that's enough to warrant complaint about the change after 6 years of it being uncapped especially when no real context was given for the change. Capping FPS in this day and age is a monumentally stupid decision and any game engine that needs to tie things to the frame rate for them to work properly should find another way to do it instead.

If someone gave us some actual reasoning behind the change beyond the really stale "well we don't want people damaging their pc's" because that's a garbage reason, I think a lot less people would be up in arms. As it stands, it just seem arbitrary and ill thought-out.

[Lumis_Arvalo]

If you read people—like me—having a hard time taking the way these complaints seriously as a "spit in your face," then you're just adding words to our mouths. It's not that we want you deprived of nice things, but it's the hyperbolic reaction of three times the console FPS being unacceptable, unplayable, ridiculous etc. It's an extreme over reaction that borders on comical.

It's a technical problem that is hampering the enjoyment of the game by a subset of legitimate players. It sure as hell is going to affect mine after 6 years of being uncapped. I'll agree that people saying it's "unplayable" are being hyperbolic, but "unacceptable" and "ridiculous" are 100% valid given that it has been uncapped up until now.

Just because it isn't a problem for you doesn't mean it isn't a problem or that it should be brushed aside.