Rework the market system to allow purchase offer listings and eliminate undercutting

[MarniDawg]

Because she has not described all the details to this system, and the ones she has described are not being properly understood by... People who just can't understand it for some reason. By playing it, you may be able to get a clearer sense of how it works than it simply being described.

I mean I'm open to improvement always, but what problem do we have other than bots that this would improve?

[NessaWyvern]

I mean I'm open to improvement always, but what problem do we have other than bots that this would improve?

Refer to my previous post a page back on all the issues it would fix with our current system. Edit: didn't see your previous post, just because you don't mind the issues, doesn't mean they are still not glaring issues. The OSRS system makes it easier to use the market board for all players. Also, on my server, leveling items that are not used for leves are often 30k+, which new players simply cannot afford.

For example, I often see lvl 50 items for between 90-200k, because hardly anyone sells them. that's a large amount for someone just leveling through the story for the first time to pay.

[MarniDawg]

Refer to my previous post a page back on all the issues it would fix with our current system.

I'd that's the one I responded to already, I don't see those as problems.

[ElazulHP]

*Undercuts thread by 1 gil*

[NessaWyvern]

I'd that's the one I responded to already, I don't see those as problems.

Yeah sorry, I edited my response because I hadn't seen it just yet.

[ADVSS]

I don't really see a need to rework the market system as it is now. If someone undercuts you just wait for the item to sell or lower your price. It's all up to what the individual wants to do and I personally enjoy that freedom.

I dont see so as well, the only improvement would be something similar to EVE contract sales, where you post x items selling at x a piece, and people can buy 1 or all of them at set price. Undercutting by a gil or two, is almost caused because of the fact that partial stocks cannot be soldm so here we go. If Im levelling a crafter, or for whatever purpose, I only need 10 this or that. I'll usually go down the list and buy maybe 12 because its totally closer to the amount I need. Outside of the system in place? I think its fine, 1 gil, etc whatever. Im sure theres disagreeance, but you know, supply and demand have a very big impact on value. As they should, and if anyone dumping their supply for 1 gil less, is any less of an indication of that. well I dont know. Yeah. I do this too, but im not much of a mb supplier, Im more of a combatant, thats just trying to get the stuff out of inventory so i can make the money as fast as possible. Some are like me, others are more professional about their sales and what prices they claim are "good quality' but most likely a combatant ran through a map getting through a fate and 2 shot this wildebeast, so yeah that really held little value over what some might potentially feel is worth.

TLR - basically the only thing for suppliers to enhance the current system, is a buy by need listing, limited of course by whatever means, but thats all I see is necessary. Not everyone needs your 99 lumbers at said price. Of course. this should be OPTIONAL and limited either by retainers present(say 1-3 supply contracts per retainer) but even then it alleviates some issues. Its never going to 100% work in your favor, unless you spend all your time watching the numbers. Which you could, if you wanted to, but thats also your choice at this point.

[Barraind]

You kinda just outed yourself right there, showing that you don't actually know how the GTS/GE actually works.

Except it doesnt give you the lowest priced items, it filters by oldest listed for at or less than that price. AND, depending on which of the versions of this system you're using, charges the buyer price rather than the seller price. So no, you cant actually buy out the cheapest X items at any given price

If you think this market system is unique to runescape of all things, you're not paying attention to MMO economies. (Psst, CoH had that same system 3 years prior)

Again, the GW2 system is far superior.

[MarniDawg]

Refer to my previous post a page back on all the issues it would fix with our current system. Edit: didn't see your previous post, just because you don't mind the issues, doesn't mean they are still not glaring issues. The OSRS system makes it easier to use the market board for all players. Also, on my server, leveling items that are not used for leves are often 30k+, which new players simply cannot afford.

For example, I often see lvl 50 items for between 90-200k, because hardly anyone sells them. that's a large amount for someone just leveling through the story for the first time to pay.

With world visit, vendors, poetics and job gear from quests there is a reason that it's so expensive. No one buys it except for glamour now.

Vendors easily supply all the leveling gear you need in addition to dungeons.

Why when there are 2 listings for a level 50 shirt should resources be spent computing an algorithm every time someone wants to buy it for a certain price? It's much similar for it to list a database of stuff put up for sale by players.

[Mistyregions]

Nah, it's a free market brochacho and protectionism is bad in life and in video game markets. More cons than Pros.

What I suggest is you realize you are over valuing the service you are providing. Unless you are providing a service no one else can, its simply lowest you can go until you back peddle on time VS effort. That's the gig and how it works, getting "laws " implemented to protect yourself will do nothing but crush the market in a bad way, ergo the EU system. The EU system works I give it that, but for maxium freedom of market and ability to maximize profits, it falls horribly flat.

Also someone will create a outside market board much like OSRS and yah everything will be the same just more workaround.

So adapt, or get out. That's life homie stop trying to get "laws" passed so you can personally gain from it is very..... red of you.

[NessaWyvern]

Except it doesnt give you the lowest priced items, it filters by oldest listed for at or less than that price. AND, depending on which of the versions of this system you're using, charges the buyer price rather than the seller price. So no, you cant actually buy out the cheapest X items at any given price

What? In OSRS you automatically buy the cheapest items first, which is why you often get coin refunds when you buy something. In OSRS its a two way street of buyer price AND seller price. Your outing yourself again here, mate.

If you want to buy out all the cheapest items first, you just set your price less than the average, or the lowest price you are willing to pay. Everything cheaper than that, you get coin refunds.

To buy only the cheapest in runescape you would do this:
Say you want to buy prayer pots and the average is 1000. Buy one pot with your buyers price of 1000. You will buy one and get a coin refund from the pot you bought, as you would have bought the lowest at the time. Say you got a refund of 10 coins, that means the lowest was 990. So you set your next buy offer for x items at 990. You'll buy out all those at that price, and any listed cheaper or at that price in the future.