New housing sector - will fc have priority?

[Mew_FC]

I assume the new Wards on Spriggan and Twintania, the new servers for Chaos and Light respectively.



Please do elaborate, entirely possible SE changed how that works since the last time I actually had to way back in 2.x. Back then you needed what, 90k Free Company Credits to reach Rank 6? Can't see how you can do that in a couple of minutes, even if you've planned ahead of time with plenty of items to turn in; Something I doubt most casual or completely new Free Companies will be able to do, but I guess that's their fault.

Either way, a 2 minute delay is going to cost you most of the large plots if literally anyone can just transfer over and buy up plots solo. That's also not factoring in forming up the Free Company, if your entire Free Company is moving, four of you better book Tuesday off work so you can jump on at 11AM BST sharp to form up and grind the points to even buy the plot... Again, if people can buy solo then a lot of those plots are just going to vanish while a Free Company does that... I think there are enough delays involved with Free Companies getting those plots to justify giving them priority, and once more, this is based off a Free Company that is hyper active in forming up and grinding to Rank 6, which really shouldn't be the standard we base this off of...

Ilvl 250 - 750pts
Ilvl 220 - 660pts
Ilvl 180 - 540pts
Ilvl 170 - 510 pts

That's what you get for turning purchasable HQ gear on the marketboard. At ~10k a pop, it's less than 2m to grind to level 6. Takes about an hour to go through every server. Takes less than 10 minutes to turn everything in.

I didn't even give a name, feeling guilty?

I mean, this is a pretty select club. It's not like you have dozens of players with that much virtual real estate... besides, you got all upset in this thread and another one... Regardless, what do I have to feel guilty for? Funny how you pick what post you reply to

I mentioned at an inflated price, which is against the rules. If you trade houses, you are not allowed to make a profit on it.

And yes, there are people who are breaking the rules, a quick look on the FFXIV housing reddit shows people selling FC houses for over twice their purchase price.

Square Enix doesn't care about transactions that happen between players. Unless someone gets scammed. Period.

The last neighbor I bought out had a small plot in the middle of nowhere in the Mist and they couldn't be more happy to receive 30x the cost of their plot to relocate elsewhere. People tend to change their mind about nearly everything once it starts benefiting them and you're no different.

[Wynn_Storm]

I mean, this is a pretty select club. It's not like you have dozens of players with that much virtual real estate... besides, you got all upset in this thread and another one... Regardless, what do I have to feel guilty for? Funny how you pick what post you reply to

I'm not upset at all. The reason i stopped responding to you in the other thread is because i didn't realize i was talking to YOU at first. And really no guilt? All those houses that you own are going to waste. You don't truly need them, you just want them because of greed. No person has need for 20+ houses. All those houses that you own could have been owned by many players, but you took them for yourself. There is no one else in that FC besides you and your alts.

There's a reason you have a reputation on Gilgamesh

[Mew_FC]

I'm not upset at all. The reason i stopped responding to you in the other thread is because i didn't realize i was talking to YOU at first. And really no guilt? All those houses that you own are going to waste. You don't truly need them, you just want them because of greed. No person has need for 20+ houses. All those houses that you own could have been owned by many players, but you took them for yourself. There is no one else in that FC besides you and your alts.

There's a reason you have a bad reputation on Gilgamesh.

Why would I feel any guilt when I'm actively using these houses? Do you think players who only enter their house when they start receiving emails feel any guilt? What about those players who let that timer run out instead of relinquishing their estate? We've got the equivalent of a ward and it's subdivision in limbo every single day because of the very generous demolition timer. There are more important problems than my FC owning .6% of the houses on the server.

Regardless, who are you to tell me what I need and don't need? Housing is my endgame because it's the only thing left I haven't done in this game. Your argument regarding how other players could benefit from these houses doesn't really work when we have more personal estates than free company owned houses. If you want to complain about how some of our houses are owned by less than 4 people, you might as well start complaining about how personal housing is actively preventing a whole lot of people from having access to any sort of housing.

It's funny how you believe I'm all alone when there's many of us to begin with. It just goes to show how little you and the server actually knows about me and my FC. Regarding my "reputation" on the server, I couldn't care less. I've done more for the server than you or even your FC has ever done, but I don't shout it from the top of the Kugane tower. I don't need to.

[Wynn_Storm]

Why would I feel any guilt when I'm actively using these houses? Do you think players who only enter their house when they start receiving emails feel any guilt? What about those players who let that timer run out instead of relinquishing their estate? We've got the equivalent of a ward and it's subdivision in limbo every single day because of the very generous demolition timer. There are more important problems than my FC owning .6% of the houses on the server.

Regardless, who are you to tell me what I need and don't need? Housing is my endgame because it's the only thing left I haven't done in this game. Your argument regarding how other players could benefit from these houses doesn't really work when we have more personal estates than free company owned houses. If you want to complain about how some of our houses are owned by less than 4 people, you might as well start complaining about how personal housing is actively preventing a whole lot of people from having access to any sort of housing.

It's funny how you believe I'm all alone when there's many of us to begin with. It just goes to show how little you and the server actually knows about me and my FC. Regarding my "reputation" on the server, I couldn't care less. I've done more for the server than you or even your FC has ever done, but I don't shout it from the top of the Kugane tower. I don't need to.

This right here just proves my point. You can go ahead and keep believing what you want to believe, it doesn't make it right or justify your actions.

And really, doing more for the server? How more deluded can you possibly be? How does hoarding houses benefit the server? Maybe if you relinquished 20 of those houses then maybe you would ACTUALLY be doing some good for Gilgamesh.

Also i just wanted to point how much of a hypocrite you are when you say this.

when we have more personal estates than free company owned houses. If you want to complain about how some of our houses are owned by less than 4 people, you might as well start complaining about how personal housing is actively preventing a whole lot of people from having access to any sort of housing.

You complain that there isn't enough plots for free companies, and yet you are the one who's taking up those plots so those free companies can't have a home.

[Johaandr]

It's funny how you believe I'm all alone when there's many of us to begin with. It just goes to show how little you and the server actually knows about me and my FC. Regarding my "reputation" on the server, I couldn't care less. I've done more for the server than you or even your FC has ever done, but I don't shout it from the top of the Kugane tower. I don't need to.

What? Who is you?
You show your pride and brag about what you have done. Sure its cool.
But you simply cannot compare that to others contribution to the «server».
Btw you already shouted.

[Mew_FC]

What? Who is you?
You show your pride and brag about what you have done. Sure its cool.
But you simply cannot compare that to others contribution to the «server».
Btw you already shouted.

Indeed, handing out hundreds of millions to random sprouts cannot be compared to this person contribution since they've made no signification contribution to begin with. Gil becomes meaningless when you're capped and you're not getting to that point by complaining about others on a video game forum.

Btw, you failed at metaphors

If Squeenix really didn't care about people selling houses for inflated prices, then why the hell would Yoshida himself make a statement on it?
He mentioned it all the way back in E3 2016.
He's a video of him talking about it: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/72591248?t=06h53m45s
Skip to 06:53:45, where he talks about it, and his stance on selling houses for profit.


I think you are just deluded about it at this point.
And be careful, you might find some reports coming your way, especially since you have admitted to paying people 30x the housing price for them to relocate their housing plot, right here on the forums.

Sorry but Yoshida isn't Square Enix and there has never been any official statement made on the lodestone or ingame. Yoshida has said many things that never came to be, you should know that.

I already get hateful messages and players telling me how they report me everyday. Guess what, my service accounts are intact and I've never had to talk to any game moderator about any of this. As stated, GMs don't care about 1 on 1 transactions, unless someone gets scammed. Frauding another player is against the game rules, trading houses isn't and has never been.

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Side note. It's funny how some of you are complaining about how players are running shell FCs, but it's perfectly fine for single players to own the majority of houses. If Square Enix didn't lower the housing prices by 5x, there would be housing for everyone

[NessaWyvern]

Square Enix doesn't care about transactions that happen between players. Unless someone gets scammed. Period.

The last neighbor I bought out had a small plot in the middle of nowhere in the Mist and they couldn't be more happy to receive 30x the cost of their plot to relocate elsewhere. People tend to change their mind about nearly everything once it starts benefiting them and you're no different.

If Squeenix really didn't care about people selling houses for inflated prices, then why the hell would Yoshida himself make a statement on it?
He mentioned it all the way back in E3 2016.
He's a video of him talking about it: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/72591248?t=06h53m45s
Skip to 06:53:45, where he talks about it, and his stance on selling houses for profit.


I think you are just deluded about it at this point.
And be careful, you might find some reports coming your way, especially since you have admitted to paying people 30x the housing price for them to relocate their housing plot, right here on the forums.

[Aeloria]

I've said it before and guess I'm saying it again. A singular person's gil is equal to that of an FC's gil for a house. So why on earth should one have priority over the other in a system where personal and FC houses can be purchased. Seriously think about what you are asking/saying. It's not like FC's are really that important.

[AlliciaCapulet]

I've said it before and guess I'm saying it again. A singular person's gil is equal to that of an FC's gil for a house. So why on earth should one have priority over the other in a system where personal and FC houses can be purchased. Seriously think about what you are asking/saying. It's not like FC's are really that important.

I've already explained later on the post, yeah it makes a difference. Having 3 garden to make things like shards or thavnarian onions helps more people in a fc than someone having them just to make profit. In a large house, you can put the leveling furniture (all 8 of them) for crafters, it has no use for one person alone.

My whole point is, a large house for one person should not be allowed, and they should put a restriction, like a minimum of active players in a fc (more than 4, which is the actual restriction) for larger house. And if you go under that minimum, you lose it.

If you believe that fc are not important, fine, that's your point of view, but every game have guilds/fc that gather some player together, and those people usually like to help each other, except if you are one greedy elitist. And having a large house can make a difference for a fc, and since there are so few of them, I'm saying it again, they should be for the fc only.

[Paladinleeds]

I've already explained later on the post, yeah it makes a difference. Having 3 garden to make things like shards or thavnarian onions helps more people in a fc than someone having them just to make profit. In a large house, you can put the leveling furniture (all 8 of them) for crafters, it has no use for one person alone.

My whole point is, a large house for one person should not be allowed, and they should put a restriction, like a minimum of active players in a fc (more than 4, which is the actual restriction) for larger house. And if you go under that minimum, you lose it.

If you believe that fc are not important, fine, that's your point of view, but every game have guilds/fc that gather some player together, and those people usually like to help each other, except if you are one greedy elitist. And having a large house can make a difference for a fc, and since there are so few of them, I'm saying it again, they should be for the fc only.

I would argue for 100 members for a small house, 300 for a medium, and 500 for a large. Even though it means my FC would lose the house. I would go further, make it so when implemented (without any prior warning), if your FC doesn't have enough members, the plot is removed with no refund of any furnishings in the house, or the cost of the plot. You're just booted out hard. And the member count applies to members online within the past 24 hours (so 99 members online in the past 24 hours, the house is gotten rid of). I would also separate personal housing from FC housing by building on apartments so they can do crossbreeding and have outdoor furnishings, and make the houses FC only.