Disappointment of Shoha/Feedback. Samurai Lv80 Skill.

[Wynn_Storm]

As a samurai main, i am also disappointed in this lack luster level 80 ability.

I think eventually they'll rework the ability, but it seriously needs one. I doubt they will change it before Shadowbringers go live, and if it does change i will be more than happy to be proven wrong.

Meditating in a fight is difficult, especially in some fights where there is barely any downtime. I know meditate only works in combat, but does this ability only work if you are in combat as well? Like do you need to meditate in combat to start gaining stacks? If not you can meditate before the fight begins to use the ability.

But who knows, maybe someone with more info can say something.

[Burningskull]

But we already have Midare to combo off of Midare now. :^)

My personal suggestion would be decoupling Seigan from Third Eye, giving it an appropriate cooldown, and having it build stacks. If nothing else it'd make a very niche skill and what looks to be another very niche skill actually useful.

Well how about it combos off of the 50 Kenki cost moves? Gyuren(sp) and that new one. (Sorry I can't remember their names. To Japanese for me ><)

[xxvaynxx]

As a samurai main, i am also disappointed in this lack luster level 80 ability.

I think eventually they'll rework the ability, but it seriously needs one. I doubt they will change it before Shadowbringers go live, and if it does change i will be more than happy to be proven wrong.

Meditating in a fight is difficult, especially in some fights where there is barely any downtime. I know meditate only works in combat, but does this ability only work if you are in combat as well? Like do you need to meditate in combat to start gaining stacks? If not you can meditate before the fight begins to use the ability.

But who knows, maybe someone with more info can say something.

You need to be in combat.
So sadly you can't prep it, you need to be gaining kenki to proc the stack.

[Lersayil]

Its somewhat disapointing, lackluster and low impact... but fine I guess?

If anything I'm only baffled by how its the 80 skill... but then I remind myself that we've got Guren the last time and kinda start seeing the pattern.

I'm also more concerned by the loss of Hagakure.

[Driavna]

A "quick fix" is to let the stacks remain so is something a SAM can build over time using the moments that for mechanics is forced to step aside from the boss. Even then doesn't sound fun at all.

[Rayzel_Velland]

In fact, it is generally a useless skill. Any other combination will do much more damage without problems. And then we will be forced to stand 10 seconds in one place to inflict 500 damage and wait a minute to repeat. But why such a mockery?

Wait for the 80th level to get nothing, because use this skill is more than useless.

[Burningskull]

They could also have the move on it's own OGCD and not have it tied to Meditate. Have it gain stacks as you use it and eventually the stacks cap out and it'll always do that high potency damage till you either die or zone.

Matter of fact if they made it work like this they could trait it in as an upgrade to the single target 25 kenki spender.

[Rayzel_Velland]

Hakaze + Yukikaze = 580 Potency (every 5 seconds)
Meditaion + Shoha + 10 seconds standing in one place = 500 Potency (once a minute)

It's not even funny

[ForteNightshade]

Toying with some ideas on how to improve Shoha or make it more interactive. I rather like the idea of pairing it with Seigan. So I came up with the following.

Every successful use of Seigan or Merciful Eye provides a stack of some sort. We can accumulate three stacks, which have Seigan's full potency for each use or half for Merciful Eye. Upon reaching three stacks, you become Shoha Ready (think Assassinate) which not only unlocks Shoha but adds an additional 220/110 potency. To break it down...

1 Seigan/Merciful Eye = 220/110
2 Seigan/Merciful Eye = 440/220
3 Seigan/Merciful Eye = 660/330
Shoha ready puts the potency at 880/440, making that Shoha's actual potency

Potencies could still be adjusted but I feel like rewarding successful Third Eye proccing is a far better mechanic as it encourages people to actually pay attention to it whereas now Seigan as always been something of an afterthought.

[Duskane]

shoha and Third eye and its procs are just not needed imo

also
"lets remove Hagakure instead of reworking it to fill kenki lets just make Ikishoten"