we are now entering the center of "complain" phase

[gumas]

everywhere i went (this forum, reddit, youtube comment, gaming forum) all i see now is just complain about every class, change, new future, everything.

the negativity is just overwhelming at this point, and we are not even touching the game yet.

i can understand with the genuine complain on certain class makeover (*cough* AST cards *cough*) but the others?

[LittleChickenNugget]

To be fair, most tanks and DPS are pretty happy.

[Jandor]

To be fair, most tanks and DPS are pretty happy.

Yeah, I think tank streamlining has gone maybe a tad too far, I'd tweak a thing or two here and there, but mostly happy.

DPS is same again, some good, some iffy, overall though fairly pleased.

Healers though, wtf brought that on SE?! They all look terrible.

[NanaWiloh]

Yeah, I think tank streamlining has gone maybe a tad too far, I'd tweak a thing or two here and there, but mostly happy.

DPS is same again, some good, some iffy, overall though fairly pleased.

Healers though, wtf brought that on SE?! They all look terrible.

Something tells me Yoshi P is going to be appologizing for the healer mess at some point just a question of when. His appologies are always so nice and I feel sorry for him at times he does try.

[Bhearil]

Yeah, I think tank streamlining has gone maybe a tad too far, I'd tweak a thing or two here and there, but mostly happy.

DPS is same again, some good, some iffy, overall though fairly pleased.

Healers though, wtf brought that on SE?! They all look terrible.

Actually many of the tanks that are not WAR/future GNB are quite dissatisfied.

DRK/PLD got really shafted ouside of getting new cool looking effects. DRK loses tons of actions per minute due to losing Blood Weapon speed and the mp regen per skill being quite low (500mp and important skills cost 3k of a 10k pool so outside of blood Weapon window the mp generations is quite bad even adding 2k per minute from natural mp regen) as well as putting it AGAIN on a forced magic tank niche (its true that MOST are magical but good luck if they decide to put Alexander physical version raid, is gonna be Paladin 3.0 all over again), not counting Living Dead being the very same despite 2 years of complaints that it was the WORST invul skill. Meanwhile PLD lost a lot utility and GNB adds almost as much if not better (like passage of arms vs 15% raid mitigation on a 90 sec cd that allows the GNB to keep doing things unlike PLD or intervention that now cost bar and has no benefits making it just better ignore it and press taunt instead of wasting resources meanwhile GNB slaps heart of stone for 15% mitigation and a possible 150 potency shield)

GNB only complain is that its potencies are a bit too low but that be fixed easily (and that invul cd too high for what it does that can be easily fixed as well by reducing the cd), meanwhile the biggest complain WAR has is that their new animations are mediocre xD

Even if AOE healing was gutted on DRK (60 seconds cd for 200 potency aoe healing) the new WAR skill still allows him to have a quite nice lifesteal

[Jandor]

Actually many of the tanks that are not WAR/future GNB are quite dissatisfied.

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Meanwhile PLD lost a lot utility and GNB adds almost as much if not better (like passage of arms vs 15% raid mitigation on a 90 sec cd that allows the GNB to keep doing things unlike PLD or intervention that now cost bar and has no benefits making it just better ignore it and press taunt instead of wasting resources meanwhile GNB slaps heart of stone for 15% mitigation and a possible 150 potency shield)

Haven't looked too closely at DRK, but PLD only needs a bit of tweaking.

Intervention always cost gauge, did you mean Cover? I agree cover shouldn't cost gauge, the 2min cooldown is fine.

You can't move for Passage, but Paladin gets Passage and Veil. GNB only gets Heart of Light.

[Bhearil]

Haven't looked too closely at DRK, but PLD only needs a bit of tweaking.

Intervention always cost gauge, did you mean Cover? I agree cover shouldn't cost gauge, the 2min cooldown is fine.

You can't move for Passage, but Paladin gets Passage and Veil. GNB only gets Heart of Light.

Yeah sorry, i wanted to say Cover.

Even if Paladin still has Veil, now he has a heavy contender utility wise and GNB will probably deal more damage than PLD sealing the deal, not counting that the faster pace will atract old DRK players now that DRK is no longer the fastest tank and has a very streamlined rotation (new DRK rotation looks like the WAR's little brother and sadly thats not a compliment :/ )

If i had to put as they are id say an all around tank setup would be WAR/GNB or WAR/DRK only if its magic heavy content.

If we continue the current trend the PLD extra utility is unnecesary(but apreciated) and simply was prefered because DRK was on an even worse spot( thats was the reason of DRK constant buffs since a while) and double WAR affected LB gauge

[DuskTS]

That's just how MMO veterans show their uncontainable hype for a new expansion.

[Heliantheae]

Yea, that's why I'm sticking to Twitter. The only complaints are few and far between.

[NorthernLadMSP]

And so the solution is to create a new thread complaining about the complainers?