1.20a Patch notes

[DevilsAdvocate]

Too bad competition is none existence in FFXIV, so what is your point anyway? Everyone play style is different. If your is about trying to be the first or get it with fastest timer then more prop to you. That doesn't mean anything though, like I said before only you care and no one else. It not like if you get it first kill or get the fastest kill time you automatically get a trophy of some kind.

I play my game with friends and to have fun and meet new people. I do it at my own paste and not rush to get everything first or be the fastest because in the end it doesn't mean anything. I enjoy every contents and having fun doing it. Everyone will get it someday, being first mean nothing in this game or does get it with the fastest kill time. I feel bad for you guy that think every MMORPG is suppose to be a competition. I don't think Final Fantasy XIV is your type of game then, better get back to Wow or Star War Old Republic. There you can have PvP and competition. I don't see what you trying to compete in FFXIV because it is none existence.

So you said every MMORPG competition exist and is healthy, but let me ask you this. You kill Moogle Kingg first and get your weapon then run out of contents and just waiting there for new content. But then one week later I kill it and get my weapon as well. Do you think your weapon is better then mine? Don't think so. And don't know why you compare real life sport to a game, a game is just a game.

If I'm the only one who cares about being first then why is there always so many people around the instance entrance when the servers come up? Why is there a huge rush to log back in? So much of a rush in fact they make you wait in line to get back into the game? If I were the only one in a rush to get things first then there wouldn't be any of these things. What I'm seeing by your reaction is your inability to do things as fast as you'd like. If you truly played this game to be with your friends and meet new people why are you even taking the time to bother those of us who care about doing things first? Why am I even worth your breath? We obviously don't have the same goals when we're playing. We have nothing in common. We're not on the same "level". So, my suggestion to you is to not comment about things that don't apply to you. World first doesn't mean anything to you so don't talk about it. Speed kills don't mean anything to you so don't talk about it. You don't mean anything to me so I'm done talking about you. Simple.

Lastly to answer the question about what I do with my time once I've beaten the new content. I go back to leveling crafts and preparing my gear for the next content. It's called being prepared. Like a good boyscout.

P.S. Sports = Games as well. "We're going to see a football GAME tonight". Touchdown = 6 points, Getting 50 CNJ = 5 achievement points. This game keeps score just like any other game. My examples remain valid.

[Babydoll]

Nothing wrong with being happy that you (don't mean anyone in particular) completed stuff first in a mmo...however I think people get irritated with folks sometimes because it starts coming off as special snowflake syndrome.

[Pyretta_Blaze]

fusional, you put that better than I ever could +100 if I could.

There should be room in this game for all of us, no matter how we want to play.

And for Darkrose saying "That doesn't mean anything though" actually, it might not mean anything to you, but it certainly does to them... I may never be the "best on server" or have the fastest kill time but I can be impressed and strive to work harder to get my kill times lower. It means something to me too.

Not everyone needs a shiny gold trophy to let them know they did well or that their accomplishment means something to everyone in the world.

Also, friendly competition IS a good thing but there is a fine line between that and an e-peen contest.

[Tango]

I like turtles

[viion]

i like trains

[DucNerval]

i like BG

(just curious about what will follow, sorry for OP but read all pages thinking i was about to read feelings about this patch that would have correct a bug and implement something that still bug after a couple hours of beeing implemented and i fall on this discussion again lol. Not really used to forum but i think some says "/popcorn" or so ?)

[Victor]

What is the most efficient way to get these Unmarked Keystones solo?

[fusional]

What is the most efficient way to get these Unmarked Keystones solo?

probably hunker down at some intersection where a lot of spindiggles pass through and solo them. they go down pretty quickly and seem to drop 1-2 keystones *most* of the time. seems especially easy nuking as thm, since your thunder combo won't hit the trees, but pretty much anything will do.

there's a pretty good spot north of one of the bridge monkey NMs where the spindiggles come from 3 different directions at the intersection.

you could also farm the wolves near where spitfire paths.

[Darkrose]

so it's funny how the thread gets back on topic then shifts back to QQ. if we dropped it, why can't you?

i'd be more than happy to go word-for-word with you about it (and soundly defeat you), but it's moot. and yet you kids keep trying to get the last word on a subject that's already passed. so tell me again who needs to grow up.

now, that said-



^
and it is an absolute godsend for both the repairer and repairee, imo. there are obviously still things in the game that could use some work/changes/tweaks, but i'm consistently impressed with what yoshi's doing with things... especially considering he's developing an entirely new game on the side.

oh, and p.s.!



rrrrrofl

uh, did you play FFXI? while they had stuff for all level ranges, for the better part of 8 years that game revolved almost entirely around endgame. and FFXI endgame was for world-spawn mobs you had to compete for claim over.

FFXI was an *intensely* competitive MMO experience in the PVE area (but lacking 'real' PVP). this game, by comparison, is absolutely care bear. everyone gets their own little instance and tries to act like because of this their actions have no impact on others and others' actions have no impact on them in turn. people running around willfully deaf dumb and blind.

then you come to the forums and spout this nonsense about not needing competition in an MMO? speak for yourself. not everyone uses these games as pretty chatrooms.

and protip: the devs don't exactly design these games with the "i want a pretty chatroom devoid of competition" type primarily in mind, either. i could just as easily use WoW as an example of why this or any other game doesn't need people like you.

however, i've been pretty candid about how the game needs players of all demographics, and needs to keep them happy, if it aims to succeed. but this doesn't mean that your demographic needs to ruin the game for mine, especially considering there is more pretty-chatroom-type content than challenging and competitive stuff.

and, again- no one from this LS has ever tried to take something away from players who don't like competition or challenge. we've never said all quests should be heroic difficulty, all crafting and gathering should cost billions of gil to fund and/or be nearly impossible to grind. we've never said class quests should take entire alliances hours to complete. we've never said petty level 30 NMs should be 8 hour spawns and/or be nearly impossible to kill solo. so why do your type keep trying to ruin our gameplay experience by insisting there be NO competition? by insisting there be NO challenge? by insisting we have NO place in this game? and LOL to that, anyway. hardcore players are what keep franchises alive. not the casuals that log in every few days or weeks to do the new seasonal quests, chat, then log out.

stop being self-centered, stop thinking the game needs to primarily cater to you and your type, and you and your type alone. BG members have never said everyone in the game needs to care about the things we care about and like the things we like. we also have our own individual opinions outside of the collective. we're just sharing our perceptions of things- DA is no exception. nowhere did he say you needed to hold the same values as he.

so, you want to talk about getting defensive?

l2reading comprehension. stop finding excuses to take offense to the tiniest little things which upset your delicate gaming experience. or simply don't read our posts. for the most part, we generally have absolutely no problem completely ignoring yours!

your baseless sense of entitlement is both baffling and revolting.





(yes, i realize i just contradicted myself by responding, but by all means- have the last word about it)

Sorry for being off topic again, but I wanted to make something clear.

Cool story bro, and that's great you start putting word in my mouth. I never said there shouldn't be competition in MMORPG, all I said was everyone play style is different and FFXIV competition is none existent. And lol when did I say I only use MMORPG as a chat room? It funny you think all casual gamer are like that. It just seam you guy at BG is mad . I keep seeing post about server first or fastest kill. That is nice and everything, but if you guy are that great, there no need to let everyone know on here. Have fun with your game. You don't need to be a hardcore gamer to enjoy the game though. How I see every MMORPG or most popular one is cater to casual player anyway.

And yes I play FFXI for 6 years, I'm a veteran on there and but I never brag about anything.


PS: Sorry if I offended you guy though, but please stop trying to be so elite in the game and expect everyone play style to be like your. I stop reading when I see you said casual gamer use MMORPG for chat room and not wanted in MMORPG.

[DanteAorzen]

Weeee! Another butthurt thread. Get back on topic please.