Kneejerk reaction to PLD changes.

[Ivellior]

So you trade 4-5 defensive cool downs for one.
How about keeping the cooldowns and getting an extra one?
I mean, I do play tank, so I expect either def cool downs or utility as new skills not dmg.

[Kabooa]

So you trade 4-5 defensive cool downs for one.
How about keeping the cooldowns and getting an extra one?
I mean, I do play tank, so I expect either def cool downs or utility as new skills not dmg.

It would be nice if the new offensive skills built out of defensive options.

Pretty as paladin is looking, there's not enough SHIELD SLAMMING going on.

[Bright-Flower]

It would be nice if the new offensive skills built out of defensive options.

Pretty as paladin is looking, there's not enough SHIELD SLAMMING going on.

I am a bit sad losing shield bas/swipe. At least we have the new charge (where I think the animation is us running into the enemy with our shield but hard to tell) and shield lob still I guess.

[Izsha]

So you trade 4-5 defensive cool downs for one.
How about keeping the cooldowns and getting an extra one?
I mean, I do play tank, so I expect either def cool downs or utility as new skills not dmg.

It's not as simple as counting the number. They adjusted many. Shelltron is 6 seconds. The 25% buff from drk assisting you is FAR more frequent than your 3 minute bulwark. Those are not a 1 for one in actual effectiveness. The war bubble uptime is cray.

They got rid of very weak and/or long CD skills. Convalescence every 2 min for weak effect. Bulwark had a 1000 year CD. The parry action was weak. Following? A 25% drk shield for every tabk buster is far better than bulwark. The always on war bubble is way better than lolparry and conv.

People keep obsessing over how many skills pld lost but conveniently forget how weak and low uptime they were. All that really points out is how much button bloat pld had in its kit for these skills that can be easily trimmed without much affect on gameplay.

[Ivellior]

It's not as simple as counting the number. They adjusted many. Shelltron is 6 seconds. The 25% buff from drk assisting you is FAR more frequent than your 3 minute bulwark. Those are not a 1 for one in actual effectiveness. The war bubble uptime is cray.

They got rid of very weak and/or long CD skills. Convalescence every 2 min for weak effect. Bulwark had a 1000 year CD. The parry action was weak. Following? A 25% drk shield for every tabk buster is far better than bulwark. The always on war bubble is way better than lolparry and conv.

People keep obsessing over how many skills pld lost but conveniently forget how weak and low uptime they were. All that really points out is how much button bloat pld had in its kit for these skills that can be easily trimmed without much affect on gameplay.

Actually not, if you stack the other cooldowns the effect is much better then single one. Also the other cooldowns are always and not only when having another tank with you.
And if the those cooldowns were so useless then why did they took them all from PLD in 2.0 to give them to all the other tanks? If there were useless as you said they would have been trimmed in the first or second expansion rather than now.
Also besides the fact that they removed those cooldowns they also nerfed the existing one (Sentinel to 30% and cover).
Might as well remove some dps skills if the want to trim them instead of defensive ones.

Also the whole point of tanking is holding enmity and mitigating damage, both of which were nerfed.