Why are people calling it “casualbringers” now?

[HyoMinPark]

People are calling it Casualbringers?

I imagine people also called it Casualblood, and Casualward, too. And of course, who can forget A Realm Recasual.

It's a new expansion. There's going to be that vocal minority that piss and moan about changes or details they personally don't like. It happens with every MMO and, dare I say it, every game that has a content patch cycle system in it.

Meh, I disagree with the premise of making jobs easier or “simplifying” them simply because some people don’t put the time in to learn how to play them properly or optimize them. That’s the reason they gave behind simplifying BRD: some players struggled to play it as well as others and so they lowered the ceiling to make it better for those who couldn’t optimize the job. I don’t like that sort of mentality—everyone is perfectly capable of playing a job at a high level, but they have to willing to put in the effort for it.

[Nalien]

I don’t like that sort of mentality—everyone is perfectly capable of playing a job at a high level, but they have to willing to put in the effort for it.

Welcome to 2019 gaming. We'll be reading the eulogies at 10 and having the send off by 11.

Sadly that's just what games are about these days... Catering to people who want to put effort into their hobby? Not profitable. Games are just glorified skinner boxes now, XIV is no different.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

I think the biggest offender is the set of general tank changes namely Tank Mastery trait and tank stances becoming a zero trade-off enmity booster without any extra flavour. Don't get me wrong, this puts competing for the MT spot on roughly equal levels and reels in the WAR-pulls-everything MT meta, but due to lack of more details we are worried tanking becomes brainless to do without any fear of dps or healer ripping.

[noxen]

So your argument is "don't make the class better and accessable for everyone, just tell the 'noobs' to 'git gud'". Kind of a BS argument to make there.

[HyoMinPark]

So your argument is "don't make the class better and accessable for everyone, just tell the 'noobs' to 'git gud'". Kind of a BS argument to make there.

The job is already plenty accessible—BRD is easily one of the easiest jobs to play at a basic level; always has been. But anyone who wants to play it at a high level in high-end content needs to put the effort into it. If you want to do well and play at a high level, put in the effort to get there. Just like you would do anything else. Practice makes Perfect.

Honestly, your stance is quite flawed. Jobs should not be simple because people want to be lazy and not try.

[Yshnal]

Because people like to complain before actually seeing how it plays. We saw what, what they changed plus a couple of skills? I for one find it fine that they try to optimize the classes to avoid skill bloat, if not now in the future. Also, didn't a lot of people complain exactly about the things that they're trying to fix with many of these changes?

And then people also complain when the devs release expansions that are clones from the last ones. What can they do? When they try to change something people start complaining, even before seeing the actual end result. I'm not saying that every one of the changes is perfect, but really...

[ForteNightshade]

So your argument is "don't make the class better and accessable for everyone, just tell the 'noobs' to 'git gud'". Kind of a BS argument to make there.

... you didn't even read the opposing argument did you? There is a massive difference between accessibility and dumbing things down. Bard, for example, is already good. Simplifying it so casual players who can't be bothered to learn how it functions just encourages laziness. Why should people be rewarded when they aren't putting in the effort to learn how to play?

[Bonbori]

I haven't heard anyone call it that. Citation needed. Source? (Someone who matters, preferably?)

[aeoncs]

Because many of the systems have been dumbed down

> 15 battle separate job quests down to 4 types role quests

> 13 DoH/DoL separate job quests down to 3 types of role quests

> Role Actions reduced for every role type (down to 4 ?! for tanks)

> Jobs simplified (Tanks losing emnity chains)

I could be wrong, but I never saw a single post of feedback asking for any of the above. If anything, players wanted more job identity and more complexity.

Almost all of what you just listed has absolutely nothing to do with gameplay systems becoming more casual or "dumbing them down". The role quests are just a matter of convenience and while I'm personally not a fan of this change either, it doesn't simplify the game in any way.

Tanks still have 7 role actions, it's magical DPS that only have 4 - which, tbh, is not that big of a deal since most of them were either useless or bothersome to use; the only ones people might miss is Mana Shift for progression and Apo, but even that is for niche scenarios only.

Most jobs definitely won't be simplified, at least at a first glance. And while I agree that taking away proper enmity management slightly lowers the skill ceiling of tanks as a whole, gameplay changes and encounter design can easily make up for it.


To answer your question OP: Because people are freaking out, as always. Instead of waiting until we at least have most of the information (meaning the lift of the media tour embargo and the last LL), they instead climb the nearest mountain to broadcast their misinformations and/or half-truths.

[Liam_Harper]

Because many of the systems have been dumbed down

> 15 battle separate job quests down to 4 types role quests

> 13 DoH/DoL separate job quests down to 3 types of role quests

Wait, seriously? :/
That's a major let down.