Anyone like the Ninja changes? Let's look at what we saw so far.

[NDubbaYa]

Right out the gate you get a trait that either makes huton proc TCJ or TCJ itself is now an ogcd of some kind. Either way TCJ doesn't cost ninki anymore!

You have a long range version of mug that doesn't do damage, but in exchange it gives more ninki than mug would. Maybe they replaced mug and added the extra ninki to make up for it?

Might have missed this, but it looks like kassatsu has become one of those charge moves that they were talking about as well. Not only did it refresh the mudra, the ninja in the vid was able to use it IMMEDIATELY AFTER to load up another mudra.

Speaking of mudras, did you check out that fuma shuriken? You not only get to throw a whole lot of em now, but you teleport as well. Wonder what that means for shukuchi and if that got replaced?

After that teleport, they show off some aoe moves which aren't really special (WHEREISMYFROG). What is special is that move after. It's like duality, but it continues to apply that effect to more of your GCDs. Looks like at least 5 GCDs? Either way you build up wayyy more ninki because of it

Unless I missed it, trick attack was noticeably absent. It's a big move for nins and the party in general. I know that they were talking about lowering the effectiveness of job synergy so that it'll lead to more diverse comps, but did they remove trick attack because of that? We'll see in 5.0 lol

Ninja doesn't look like it plays wildly different in general, but all the new tools should still be pretty neat to mess around with. Anyone else dig the changes?

[Canadane]

Hi Zizi.
Trick attack seems to be gone. Probably in line with removing specific jobs as a "must have" in parties. Both Ninjas and Warriors seemed to fall into that.

[gumas]

i like how in the job trailer the ninja is shown like rdm playstyle, half range half melee lol

[RowanLauron]

I have mixed feelings. I like having the trick attack niche, but at the same time, without it, would ninjas be in the current meta?

I'd rather just have high damage or at least comparable damage to everyone else so it won't matter, but team utility is always a nice thing to have. MMO'S don't have much of it anymore.

[Starflake]

Trick Attack is probably not gone. The leaks that came out, the pictures accurately depict the skills for DRK, Ninja and PLD. On that leak, Trick Attack was still present.

[KageTokage]

I feel like there's going to be mucho double weaving involved in their TA burst window now with enhanced Ninjutsu from Kassatsu and TCJ not using ninki.

I'm curious as to whether or not the skill that's used before the two Kassatsu is just a replacement for Mug or not, though, because it generated 40 Ninki. If it isn't, then it would be possible to trigger Bunshin before using TA assuming Mug still generates ninki.

[Derio]

Since enmity reduction tools are gone such as smokescreen and shadewalker. If Trick Attack is indeed gone, are they going to buff NIN dps. I hope trick attack is still there or if so they changed it to have a different effect.

[Sigiria]

If they try to remove dps synergy, trick attack would probably have another effect now if it's still here.

Kassatsu seems to work differently now too. Yoshida said NIN got high ninjutsu now and in the video when the nin use the first kassatsu he fire a katon with a different animation then the second one with the shuriken he use the mudras for hyoton.
So I'm guessing kassatsu is now a charged skill that allow you to use the higher version of some ninjutsu.

For the toad, I've heard rinne tensei now got a lower CD so if I had to guess I'd say when the clone is in CD you would use rinne tensei for single target and the toad for aoe.

Either way if they removed the debuff of trick attack the NIN will just have more dps, and if no other melee bring any utility to a party then it's just a matter of balancing numbers at maximum dps output.

EDIT: Just noticed too, when he use the skill that charge the ninki, there's an animation with water spheres getting absorbed by the nin, I'm starting to think it's not random if he's using that skill after suiton.
Also ninki seems to be generated with WS now instead of auto-attacks

[Noitems]

People were saying MCH still has a hypercharge style effect so it wouldn't make any sense for TA to be gone.

Let alone taking TA away basically makes Hide useless past ninjutsu CD resetting. They seem to be removing things like Tether for RDM skills that are useless in most cases, so I doubt they would take that away an essential like TA.

[ern815]

I was hoping for shadow clones to be honest. But that skill was given to DRK instead.