Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Sanctify]

Like not getting a mass pull? So you disregard your role and pull anyway?
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Either you don't like what the (insert role of other player) is doing so you decide to take matters into your own hands by (insert doing something that is not your role) and you expect (insert role of other player) to adhere to your play style and co-operate with you.

Well I can safely say it's not the role of a WHM to sit idly and wait for damage to go out and then heal said damage. Naysayers will say that the holy times it of tank heal dps is law or something. But in reality EVERY job is a dps with side tools assigned to the fantasy of their job title. I will absolutley take things into my own hands if I deem it necessary. The tanks job is to do damage and keep aggro, which he was doing fine and I was able to do my roles the same. The guy just wanted to go slow for idk reasons? So of course I'm going to try and make the run faster I encourage any competent healer to do the same. If they have no prob getting the aggro and you can heal it there shouldn't be a problem. Going slow for the sake of going slow is just plain rude and a waste of people's time.

[Sanctify]

Holy trinity* cant edit from mobile, feelsbad :|

[Lynesse]

In most normal mode content, there's a good chance you don't need a tank at all.

If the tank won't cooperate with the party, go with my blessing and show them the respect the content demands they be shown.

None.

I'm reading the replies, and it feels like everyone is so tense, and then I read this, and all of that tension melts into a fit of giggles.

You, sir, have a wonderful sense of humor.

[Cincierta]

Errr... Noct gear is only 10 ilevels below the stuff the dungeon drops, which is actually decent enough. A Garuda weapon (weapon, the most important piece of gear, that affects healing output more than anything else) on the other hand is 50 ilevels below Dusk Vigil drops. And 20 even below the requirements of Keeper, the previous MSQ dungeon. I don't know the exact math, but just from weapon damage and mind, they were missing (I'm guessing) 15% of healing output, depending on other gear.
Yeah, the tank surprise stancedance masspulling in sorta-on-level gear was definitely making a bad call (especially as they clearly didn't check the healer's gear first), and probably trying to just shift blame for their mishap, but they had a point (I think there's a trope for this? "jerkass has a point" or something?), the healer's weapon choice wasn't exactly up to par either. I definitely wouldn't queue for literally anything with that kind of a gear discrepancy on weapon.

What's worse is that the drg and I could tell he was trying to shift the blame onto the healer for his own stupidity. Our healer dinged at the end of the dungeon and immediately put on the stuff he already had waiting.

Still though, it doesn't really warrant the tank being a dick about not warning the rest of the party about his lawlmasspullstancedance at the start of the dungeon and then trying to pass the blame onto someone else.

[Sacred_Nym]

Just ran 50/60 as WHM and got Stone Vigil Hard. Shouldn't be too difficult right? Newbie bonus means second chance point too. I'm not gonna lie this run was a disaster. The WAR never used Overpower or any defensive cooldowns. If Holy stun wasn't up I'd literally have to Cure II them every other GCD in addition to Regen just to keep them up. And in doing so oh look at all the mobs that came to say "Hi healer. I see you healing and I'd rather see you bleeding." Ironically this made healing easier overall though I still didn't get much DPS out. The SAM was doing decent single target I guess and the SMN I swear was AFK. No AoE anywhere either besides what few Holies I could muster and what occasional AoE Sic-Ifirit does.

Still, we get to the second boss, the one you have to shoot with the cannons right? Every actually positioned themselves on a cannon so I figured it'd all be good. Just break from mine once or twice to keep people alive and it should be dead shortly right? Well after a good minute or two and noticing the boss was still at 60% I got leery. Then I looked at the party list, you know how those cannons have cast times that can be seen on the party list right? Guess what I didn't see on anyone but myself. Yeah, all three of them were standing next to their cannons, AFK. When the boss did that room wide AoE that you have to stun, and my cannon's stun was still on cooldown I would try to prolong the fight with Holy. But eventually I missed the timing and got killed. Wipe. We got it second try much faster after I asked in party chat what was so hard about this? Didn't get any direct response to that so no idea what any of them were thinking.

The best part though came on the last trash pack. I die to a mob shortly before they did because the tank still doesn't know what Overpower is. Now, the last mob to die in that pack drops the key to the boss room, much like snowcloak. What do I see as I'm running back to the party?

Honestly if not for the fact that it's right at the last boss I'd have dropped party right there. Seriously how do you have THIS little awareness of your surroundings? Now thankfully I didn't have to be the one to pick up the key (I think it was the SAM but I'm not certain). Funny part is the tank was running back through the dungeon to meet me and walked right by the key. I mean, come on.

[Khorchi]

Well I can safely say it's not the role of a WHM to sit idly and wait for damage to go out and then heal said damage. Naysayers will say that the holy times it of tank heal dps is law or something. But in reality EVERY job is a dps with side tools assigned to the fantasy of their job title. I will absolutley take things into my own hands if I deem it necessary. The tanks job is to do damage and keep aggro, which he was doing fine and I was able to do my roles the same. The guy just wanted to go slow for idk reasons? So of course I'm going to try and make the run faster I encourage any competent healer to do the same. If they have no prob getting the aggro and you can heal it there shouldn't be a problem. Going slow for the sake of going slow is just plain rude and a waste of people's time.

I will not disagree with that first sentence. I also agree that you had the option of going ahead and continue to be the tank. Ignore his request and continued to pull for him for the rest of the dungeon.
However, if you just accepted the fact that he wanted to pull slower and DPS'd the dungeon as normal, the time might only be about a minute or two slower than normal. Every single dungeon does not have the be done as a speed run.

If you want to take things into your own hands, that's fine. However, that can be seen as against the ToS now and can be constituted as "hindering the gaming experience of fellow players".
I'm not saying that's what you did, I am saying that you might get in trouble if you continue to do it and get reported on it.

[Insertcoins]

I'm reading the replies, and it feels like everyone is so tense, and then I read this, and all of that tension melts into a fit of giggles.

You, sir, have a wonderful sense of humor.

Van is a man I inspire to be like when I grow up ingame. His replies are simply the best. T.T

[Erim-Nelhah]

Well I can safely say it's not the role of a WHM to sit idly and wait for damage to go out and then heal said damage.

No it's not. In between heals, tho, you have stone/aero/holy, right? So use 'em and speed up the run as much as you can.

Naysayers will say that the holy times it of tank heal dps is law or something. But in reality EVERY job is a dps with side tools assigned to the fantasy of their job title. I will absolutley take things into my own hands if I deem it necessary.

That's fine, but if you do that you should expect to either take over tanking or be kicked.

The tanks job is to do damage and keep aggro, which he was doing fine and I was able to do my roles the same. The guy just wanted to go slow for idk reasons?

Maybe the tank was new to that dungeon or hadn't gotten it in a long time. Or maybe said tank isn't comfortable with big pulls. Either way, the right way to go about getting bigger pulls is to ask and wait for the next pull.

So of course I'm going to try and make the run faster I encourage any competent healer to do the same. If they have no prob getting the aggro and you can heal it there shouldn't be a problem. Going slow for the sake of going slow is just plain rude and a waste of people's time.

Again, if you pull mobs for the tank you should expect to tank them, and the tank may not have been pulling small 'for the sake of it'.

[Lynesse]

Van is a man I inspire to be like when I grow up ingame. His replies are simply the best. T.T

Right? Someone should make a Van Arn appreciation thread.

He gets some flak, but his intent is always pure, and everything he says is filled with this kind of sarcastic humor that just tickles my soul.

Just that when you're fighting for everyone, you usually end up fighting everyone.

[gumas]

just went DF alliance raid and we got 7 samurai in total.

the sound went they all perform midare skill at the same time/close to each other... ouch my ear lol