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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    I have a feeling that the people complaining about the theatrical phases are also the same people doing it fifty times in a single week. Perhaps taking a break and pacing yourselves is in order instead of having the phases removed entirely from future fights?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I have a feeling that the people complaining about the theatrical phases are also the same people doing it fifty times in a single week. Perhaps taking a break and pacing yourselves is in order instead of having the phases removed entirely from future fights?
    You feel wrong, regardless if you do it in a week or within 2 months it doesn't change the fact that it serves no purpose other than padding the length of the run, I'd prefer to see actual mechanics in combat in whatever time we save with shorter intermissions.

    Also absolutely keep the longer intermissions in normal mode, that's where they will be more impactful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    You feel wrong, regardless if you do it in a week or within 2 months it doesn't change the fact that it serves no purpose other than padding the length of the run, I'd prefer to see actual mechanics in combat in whatever time we save with shorter intermissions.

    Also absolutely keep the longer intermissions in normal mode, that's where they will be more impactful.
    For real. I think the average Byakko EX run is generally around 10-11 min or so (pending on experience). Add in the fact the intermission is about a 1 min 30 sec until the raidwide and for 99 runs it adds up to (rounded up) 129 minutes.

    Now it may not be that crazy and this is just in the case of the worst luck possible. But to go with that math you've wasted over 2 hours going through JUST that intermission alone.

    Hell even going through Seiryuu's intermission(albeit way shorter) still adds up to a lot of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    I see no benefit to them other than the potential to plan CDs around them.
    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Yit doesn't change the fact that it serves no purpose other than padding the length of the run, I'd prefer to see actual mechanics in combat in whatever time we save with shorter intermissions.
    For the second time in this thread, breaks in a fight are important for its pacing. It's game design 101.

    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    How is the second half of Byakko harder than the first? It's not. Even Suzaku is only a small jump in difficulty. Most of her difficult post-DDR is Simon Says being on the server tick, which really sucks for players that have higher latencies as they need to be extra careful to move early for the mechanic. These mini-games get really tiring after you've done them 99 times trying to get a mount in EX - even if you space out your clears across several weeks or months..
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    Yes, some breaks are longer than others. Deal with it. It doesn't change what I said.
    I made a general statement. I'm not interested in discussing particular exceptions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    For the second time in this thread, breaks in a fight are important for its pacing. It's game design 101.
    When the breaks exceed a minute and push two, that's what we call "excessive". There are plenty of fights that have the neat, short intermission that is the boss's Ultimate that work far better than sticking mini-games in the middle of an EX trial. HW trials were excellent because they had enough cinematic to be spectacular (e.g., Thordan EX) without it being overkill (like Byakko EX).

    Yes, some breaks are longer than others. Deal with it. It doesn't change what I said.
    I made a general statement. I'm not interested in discussing particular exceptions.
    If you aren't interested in discussion, why are you on a discussion forum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    For the second time in this thread, breaks in a fight are important for its pacing. It's game design 101.

    Yes, some breaks are longer than others. Deal with it. It doesn't change what I said.
    I made a general statement. I'm not interested in discussing particular exceptions.
    It completely changes everything, it shows that a long intermission like Byakko's is only there for padding when they have done shorter ones before (all ARR trials) and after (Seiryu, Yojimbo).

    I never said that Byakko shouldn't have an intermission.
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