1.20a tomorrow :D

[Rowyne]

Actually, it's relevant due to the misinformation they spew and how it is obnoxious to see this misinformation while they openly reveal their illness. Which I don't have a problem with calling out. The only things I feel are too low are things people cannot change about themselves. Race, gender, sexual orientation. You can change your way of thinking under a mental illness with help. Might not be something people like reading, but I don't find it unreasonable to be said.

LOL, wanting to spend time with my husband is co-dependency?

My husband and I started out playing FFXI together. He left after a year to go play WoW. I continued in FFXI for three years on my own, while he led 40 man raids into Molten Core. It actually caused distance between us and made us sad that we couldn't spend time together doing activities that we enjoyed so much. So, since my friends had finally all quit FFXI anyway, I moved to WoW with him. And I didn't regret it. We had so much fun, that we now play all our MMOs together.

It's not co-dependency. It's being a responsible adult and putting your marriage first.

I'm sorry you don't have anyone special in your life to spend time with, Brucey. Maybe when you grow up someday, you'll understand.

Lol *thumbsup* if you read this 'cause you were bored waiting for patch and actually felt like you were watching a soap! Too bad it didn't end with Rowyne learning some moral lesson about looking before leaping or something similar xP.

Oh, but I did. Morale of the story is, don't try to reason with trolls and white knights. The end.

[Charismatic]

Oh, but Rowyne, if you won't try to reason with trolls and white knights whatever will you do on these FFXIV forums? Is there even anyone else to talk to?

[Rowyne]

Oh, but Rowyne, if you won't try to reason with trolls and white knights whatever will you do on these FFXIV forums? Is there even anyone else to talk to?

Touche. >.<

[TheVedis]

Oh, but Rowyne, if you won't try to reason with trolls and white knights whatever will you do on these FFXIV forums? Is there even anyone else to talk to?

theres alot of us who are normal folks who arent either, but the whining is so bad we have been clumped in with both sides purely because we havent taken sides

[Rowyne]

theres alot of us who are normal folks who arent either, but the whining is so bad we have been clumped in with both sides purely because we havent taken sides

Very true. The negativity and frustration have pushed nearly all the rest of the norms into doing so, unfortunately.

I find I now snap at people in ways I never would have previously considered.

Good for you for remaining one of the good ones, Thevedis.

[TheVedis]

Very true. The negativity and frustration have pushed nearly all the rest of the norms into doing so, unfortunately.

I find I now snap at people in ways I never would have previously considered.

Good for you for remaining one of the good ones, Thevedis.

lol, i wish more people realized im one of the good ones

ive been labeled as a troll by tons, and as a white knight by others

all because i like the game and defend what i like about it!(while discussing changes that need to occur in a constructive way rather then just bashing whats not perfect like the trolls do)

[Bahn]

That quote is so untrue, Also quoting the guy that has been piss poor about the battle system since the stamina system was removed is the wrong person to quote cause he has been hating all changes since then. The melee classes are fine low~mid lvl cause i levled my mrd 10~14 in less than 30 mins combos work fine for all low lvl classes. Even when solo you can still hit combo's to the side of the mob w/o stunning them.

An ad hominem attack doesn't invalidate his current opinion about the combo system.

I actually have the same opinion about the current system myself. The system at rank 50 works perfectly with my Gladiator, but it feels totally incomplete in the low-midlevel range with my other characters. Before the skill streamlining of 1.20, early access to "weaker" versions of the tier 2/3 stuff made me feel like I could get a taste of the complete package around level 20-30. Subsequent levels gave me access to really cool skills, but even before then the tier 1 skills were sufficient to let you get a chance at how the classes should play like.

With the new skill streamlining, now I'm leveling simply waiting for the next skill that I can use to complete this incomplete combo. It feels like a core component of my character is completely missing until I hit the necessary levels to get my combo finishers.

I have the same opinion as Rowyne about the current combat system. To me, the current combat system feels a little less interactive (unless I'm fighting something stupid hard that requires me to watch my HP). It definitely feels more streamlined with the combo mechanics dictating what you should do, but the positional requirements really screw me up because of Square's current client server architecture where the client fails to properly update the server often enough on positional changes.

The "additional" affects from hitting from the proper side should be bonuses you should still get, but it should not be a requirement to keep a combo going. If the client was properly updating the server on position changes, I would be for it, but I've had too many instances where on my screen I hit with a WS that requires a backstab, but the game tells me I hit from the left/right.

To anyone who wants to keep it civilized and add their two cents about the combo system, there's a couple great threads in the Battle Mechanics forum about this.

[Forerunner]

Lol I agree...my character looks like a 12 yr old boy. Why can't I give her DD like mine? Silly SE ._.

o:

Now I've got the image of a million Tifa clones with gravity defying breasts and miqo'te tails. BEST. MMO. EVER.

lol, i wish more people realized im one of the good ones

ive been labeled as a troll by tons, and as a white knight by others

all because i like the game and defend what i like about it!(while discussing changes that need to occur in a constructive way rather then just bashing whats not perfect like the trolls do)

Modern Trollfare 3: There's a Troll in all of us.

White Knight Fantasy XIV? Hehe, I love puns.

[Firon]

An ad hominem attack doesn't invalidate his current opinion about the combo system.

I actually have the same opinion about the current system myself. The system at rank 50 works perfectly with my Gladiator, but it feels totally incomplete in the low-midlevel range with my other characters. Before the skill streamlining of 1.20, early access to "weaker" versions of the tier 2/3 stuff made me feel like I could get a taste of the complete package around level 20-30. Subsequent levels gave me access to really cool skills, but even before then the tier 1 skills were sufficient to let you get a chance at how the classes should play like.

With the new skill streamlining, now I'm leveling simply waiting for the next skill that I can use to complete this incomplete combo. It feels like a core component of my character is completely missing until I hit the necessary levels to get my combo finishers.

I have the same opinion as Rowyne about the current combat system. To me, the current combat system feels a little less interactive (unless I'm fighting something stupid hard that requires me to watch my HP). It definitely feels more streamlined with the combo mechanics dictating what you should do, but the positional requirements really screw me up because of Square's current client server architecture where the client fails to properly update the server often enough on positional changes.

The "additional" affects from hitting from the proper side should be bonuses you should still get, but it should not be a requirement to keep a combo going. If the client was properly updating the server on position changes, I would be for it, but I've had too many instances where on my screen I hit with a WS that requires a backstab, but the game tells me I hit from the left/right.

To anyone who wants to keep it civilized and add their two cents about the combo system, there's a couple great threads in the Battle Mechanics forum about this.

So your saying you should be doing the same thing as a lvl 50 from the get go? It's like someone saying why only the higher level weapon skills look better. After all you said tho even @ lvl 30 All classes have 3 combo options to use, then at level 50 5 of them.

[Rowyne]

So your saying you should be doing the same thing as a lvl 50 from the get go? It's like someone saying why only the higher level weapon skills look better. After all you said tho even @ lvl 30 All classes have 3 combo options to use, then at level 50 5 of them.

Not to put words in someone else's mouth (and excuse me if I am), but what I think Bahn is trying to say is that combat should be fun and balanced at all level tiers. No, of course you shouldn't be getting level 50 spells and abilities at level one. But combat should be designed to feel fluid and come together throughout the entire level climb, not feel like something's missing.