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  1. #111
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    Aisha Starglow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanama View Post
    If you want the missing sexes for 6.0 or 7.0 you have to hope the development team finds a way to auto retrofit gear for the new body types with the help of AI or some other form that makes it a lot easier for them because under their current systems, it is a huge workload for them.
    I fully trust on the dev team and thus I think they can figure something out to be able to release male viera and female hrotgar at 6.0
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    I fully trust on the dev team and thus I think they can figure something out to be able to release male viera and female hrotgar at 6.0
    In order for them to do that they would have to figure out how they're gonna handle all this stuff right NOW, before they've even fully judged the added strain of the additions we're getting in shb. Lets also remember that they don't seem to currently have plans that involve developing a new race over the course of the next 2 years so to do so would mess up a ton of time tables.

    Earliest you could reasonably expect anything if they decide to do something is 7.0, after an expansion of assessment and examination of time, resources and workflow.
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    In order for them to do that they would have to figure out how they're gonna handle all this stuff right NOW, before they've even fully judged the added strain of the additions we're getting in shb. Lets also remember that they don't seem to currently have plans that involve developing a new race over the course of the next 2 years so to do so would mess up a ton of time tables.

    Earliest you could reasonably expect anything if they decide to do something is 7.0, after an expansion of assessment and examination of time, resources and workflow.
    On top of this, Yoshi P has stated they currently have no plans to upgrade the archaic engine they are working with until they see a need to do so. I agree that 7.0 would be the likely target date to see such additions.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    In order for them to do that they would have to figure out how they're gonna handle all this stuff right NOW, before they've even fully judged the added strain of the additions we're getting in shb. Lets also remember that they don't seem to currently have plans that involve developing a new race over the course of the next 2 years so to do so would mess up a ton of time tables.

    Earliest you could reasonably expect anything if they decide to do something is 7.0, after an expansion of assessment and examination of time, resources and workflow.
    You don't really seem to understand that no one is asking for them to develop a new race, and that a missing gender is not as much work as a new race model if they are smart. For thehrotgar they can literally copy paste the heads, change them arround a little bit and take the male hrotgar body or maybe even femroe and adjust them, give them some fur textures, animate them and done. As for male viera, take elezen/Au ra/Whatever, make new heads, give them the female viera ears and animate them. Voila, here you have the missing genders. People who work on the industry already stated that if they were to focus only on this, it would take them as little as 1-2 months to get the missing genders finished, and tha if they were doing it as a side thing, it would take them about 1-1.5 years. The reason why we dont have hte missing genders is not because a group of extremely expirienced and talented professionals can't do 2 playable models in 2 years, it is that they are afraid they can't keep up the release schedule with 2 more models, and im sure they will figure somethin out in the 2 long years that are ahead of us
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  5. #115
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    Male Viera. I have no bunny in this personally, since I'm not changing race. But I'd rather have seen one new race M/F (either one) because it put the boss in a position to lie. Marketing didn't deserve that concession from him, IMO.

    Imagine there was no leak and the JP FF was the true announcement - and you realize how coy they were being about it. They KNEW what was going to happen, and I hope it stung enough that they never do it again. As always, we shall see.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    You don't really seem to understand that no one is asking for them to develop a new race, and that a missing gender is not as much work as a new race model if they are smart. For thehrotgar they can literally copy paste the heads, change them arround a little bit and take the male hrotgar body or maybe even femroe and adjust them, give them some fur textures, animate them and done. As for male viera, take elezen/Au ra/Whatever, make new heads, give them the female viera ears and animate them. Voila, here you have the missing genders. People who work on the industry already stated that if they were to focus only on this, it would take them as little as 1-2 months to get the missing genders finished, and tha if they were doing it as a side thing, it would take them about 1-1.5 years. The reason why we dont have hte missing genders is not because a group of extremely expirienced and talented professionals can't do 2 playable models in 2 years, it is that they are afraid they can't keep up the release schedule with 2 more models, and im sure they will figure somethin out in the 2 long years that are ahead of us
    It's funny because YOU don't seem to understand that that's not how development works. You can't just slap assets on top of each other and call it good. There's the new body type to account for. The reworking of the existing and upcoming armor to fit the new body type. Animating the new heads and the bodies. Adjusting existing such as hair styles to fit these new heads. There's a lot of work that needs done and the fact that you think it can be done in 1 to 2 months is laughable. As stated above, I highly doubt they'll be seen until 7.0.
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  7. #117
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    Male viera.
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  8. #118
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    Nowi Shipayu
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    In general, I'd really love to have Burmecians as a playable beast race. But in regards to the races we're currently getting in the next expansion, its a really tough decision to make. While its cool we're getting two individual races, we're still left with them being genderlocked due to the difficulties of creating a race, along with genderlocking being something some people are against (me included).

    In some cases, I've seen people advocate for holding off one race then in a later update/expansion adding in the other, but that's under the impression that they'd even bother adding another race after doing one complete race assuming they only got so far in development with one particular race that all focus concerning adding a new race was geared towards that one race. Although, it seems that the plan was to do them both, in which I'd rather have them both held off until a much later date.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by -JayJay- View Post
    In general, I'd really love to have Burmecians as a playable beast race. But in regards to the races we're currently getting in the next expansion, its a really tough decision to make. While its cool we're getting two individual races, we're still left with them being genderlocked due to the difficulties of creating a race, along with genderlocking being something some people are against (me included).

    In some cases, I've seen people advocate for holding off one race then in a later update/expansion adding in the other, but that's under the impression that they'd even bother adding another race after doing one complete race assuming they only got so far in development with one particular race that all focus concerning adding a new race was geared towards that one race. Although, it seems that the plan was to do them both, in which I'd rather have them both held off until a much later date.
    I would also have prefered having 1 full race at 5.0 and maybe them doing the other race sometime in the future. Also, while I love the viera, I think that they are just here for pure fan service, so I think full hrotgar should've taken the spot at 5.0
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    I would also have prefered having 1 full race at 5.0 and maybe them doing the other race sometime in the future. Also, while I love the viera, I think that they are just here for pure fan service, so I think full hrotgar should've taken the spot at 5.0
    Well, I was actually trying to say that I'd rather both races released at the same time, but at a much later date to ensure they could each come with both genders, I think I just worded my post poorly.
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