A question to all WoW players coming to XIV

[Nononu]

I don't really have much to add but I did play WoW for some time, switched to FF14, played both for a while, and now am pretty exclusive to FF14.

I'll start by saying I prefer the race and lore WoW presents. This is -not- me saying I -hate- what FF14 has, I don't! But FF14's lore is not at all to the level of WoW. Granted, FF14 is a newer game, but what do we really know about the Keepers? They came over on ice and... that's about it. Roegadyn have an old language that's cool, we know the -names- of Seeker tribes... we get blurbs. Whereis, in WoW, you had vast background to draw on for races. (I RP, so this is very important to me, it helps me make a character.) Now, we do get answers in the lore forums and such, but lore is still a spotty thing at best. I believe one of the devs recently talked about how they don't focus on background lore because everyone is always looking to the cool things in the present and future that are happening.

For this reason, the races just tend to be very homogenized to me. Roegadyn are big humans. Lalafell are small humans. Elezen are elven humans. Au Ra are scaled humans. Etc.

HOWEVER.

FF14 just has the better community. Look, I've read the horror stories. I know what a lot of people think about us RPers. But people never spoke in a dungeon in WoW. You silently speed ran it and -that was it-. One mistake, even if you explained you were new? You were out - unless you were the tank, and then you could stand in ALL the AoEs, eat the instakill ones, and then ask why you died and point the finger at the healer. The RP community was even worse during my time. You couldn't just ignore people, you were forced to deal with nasty little cliques who would make your time -hell- if you RPed with the wrong person. I genuinely went through depressive episodes, BAD ones, during my time playing WoW. FF14 gave me hope. FF14 made me love playing MMOs again.

So, yeah. That's my opinion. Is FF14 a little weeby? Ehn... it's art style is definitely anime, but FF always has had an anime style. (Yes, I know anime technically isn't a style, but everyone gets what you mean when you use it that way, so begone pedants.) Either way, it's just preference - the people who won't give it a try are missing out on a fairly great experience, no matter how you want to play.

[Aramina]

I've been watching youtubers like Sccotzone and Asmongold and the one thing I've noticed is both of their chats mention XIV is too cute for them. I get the anime thing as it is anime being all Final Fantasys are pretty much animes. But I didn't know people thought XIV was too cute to play. I also remember both of them saying ( their chats and SZ himself to Momo on a podcast ) That XIV is harder then wow mostly cause their bosses don't mix things up like a burn phase alone with the dance we have.

We talked about that last part tho but I just wanted to point out where I heard those thoughts, the main thing I wanna talk about is do people think XIV is too cute? And why they think so.. this is mainly for people who mainly played WoW. I'm only asking this as with how BFA is alot of WoW vets are coming to XIV and they are talking. Just wanna see if what they think aabout everything comparaing both games in terms of skill, art direction and stuff.

You aren't going to get a lot of discussion about it being too cute since as you said the people who think it is too cute aren't playing. Ergo, they are not here to discuss it.

[Iscah]

My biggest fear, that niggling doubt, is that I have joined FF14 just as it's story starts to come apart at the seams.

I don't think that's the case at this point.

I wasn't so keen on Stormblood, but right now I'm excited to see how the story will play out for the coming expansion.

Admittedly I'm not 100% certain I'll be happy with the answer, but for now I'm looking forward to it.

[MistakeNot]

I've been watching youtubers like Sccotzone and Asmongold and the one thing I've noticed is both of their chats mention XIV is too cute for them.

Odd, because "looking too cute" is one reason I have never been able to get into WoW. I mean, every character there look like something out of a childrens' cartoon, and it is hard to take any of them seriously just due to how they look.

[silverlunarfox]

Perhaps the fact that half of the community is cat people and potatoes has something to do with it.

pfft, wow has pandas....

[OhnoozeMyToes]

FFXIV has been difficult for me to get into because of the art direction but it's grown on me a lot.

Really just had to open myself to the whole Japanese style of things. It's so different than western fantasy. I'm enjoying it now though.

[Jett-Rinn]

Personally I think the E-legend of Asmongold, is much larger than the actual person (Watch some of his my life sucks videos...He's not exactly living in the OC and driving a Jag) anywho, players from WoW coming to FFXIV is a double edge sword. Yes more people is always a good thing, but the community has taken a very hard hit. Still... I honestly don't think FFXIV will hold the hard core raiders attention for long though..Pantheon is to be out soon and it is a raid or die paradise.

[Causality]

Can't speak for all of them obviously, but Asmon doesn't really have a agenda. He's just a die-hard WoW player and him and all his fans use the "weeb excuse" to pretty much write off FFXIV entirely.

Asmongold hasn't written off FFXIV entirely. He's been watching more FFXIV videos on stream lately, I think he might be slightly (if only a small amount) interested. He actually watched two videos this past week about our game. He has said time and time again though that he is Not a Gamer, only a World of Warcraft player. I think this is the most recent where he reacts to a reaction video about the Shadowbringers trailer where he says that again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfRBOWH4g98 This video he's torn between liking the trailer and that hesitance because of the "Weeb Excuse."

[Skivvy]

pfft, wow has pandas....

But you don't generally see a bunch of squealing teens sporting cringey panda ears and paws and other accessories in RL like you do with cats. The neko fascination can be an odd one.

[Noitems]

I'd def say XIV is viewed as extremely anime by them and then falls into those tropes. That one video by the WoW youtuber detailing Shadowbringers trailer brought up a ton of good points. People were upset with Pandaria and knowing that Stormblood was entirely an Eastern focused setting with samurai didn't help calm those lingering thoughts. He brought up if they saw the Heavenswad trailer instead they would be far more interested as it has more distinct classic feel that wow has.

Meanwhile going into ShB with all the hate BFA got while it's polarizing for some veteran WoW players it seems like it's appealing more to that crowd, going back to the high fantasy elements.

When you break down the actual game the character population is a lot of Miqos, Lalas, and Auras which do have some cutesy elements. But the moment they start playing and get immersed in the world those thoughts really just pewter off and you start seeing the game for what it is.