Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Yllania]

Im still going to support it even if you see it as whining because idk you want to?

[Theodric]

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The race/gender combination that you are currently playing was not originally available. I'm not sure why you're implying that everybody speaking up on this issue is 'whining' because they're not. Some are going too far but you get that with pretty much any subject around these parts.

[REPROBEAN_CHILD]

The race/gender combination that you are currently playing was not originally available. I'm not sure why you're implying that everybody speaking up on this issue is 'whining' because they're not. Some are going too far but you get that with pretty much any subject around these parts.

To be honest, it's not the same scenario. A lot changed since 2013. They had a lot more freedom to add more models to ARR, since it's a new game. Let's say if they added male viera and female hrothgar. Not only would they have to revisit EVERY piece in the game across the initial launch and two expansions to suit four new models (they literally confirmed each model is different), they'd still have to make more for the current expansion, plus the other races.

[grinkdaboy]

To be honest, it's not the same scenario. A lot changed since 2013. They had a lot more freedom to add more models to ARR, since it's a new game. Let's say if they added male viera and female hrothgar. Not only would they have to revisit EVERY piece in the game across the initial launch and two expansions to suit four new models (they literally confirmed each model is different), they'd still have to make more for the current expansion, plus the other races.

how time consumptive would it really be if viera and hrothgar are just tweaked and modified elezen and roegadyn models? sure there are some very very slight differences in their proportions but most of the difference lies in their head model which is separate. viera are a quick fix since you could just cut holes in the helmets but for the hrothgar they would just have to modify the fronts of the helmets.

[reivaxe]

They shouldn't have added any new races if they will impact the continued development of the game.... or hire more people.... but profits....

It's not a black and white thing ...

They can very well have the means to make ONE new race (As in a female and a male ... Viera and Hrothgar) and keep up with the pace they're at now with the work flow they have and not negatively affect the content. That's why they say that this is it, this is all they can do. This is the cut off point.

Just because adding too many new races would hurt the development of this game does not mean that they just should have never added any new races.

And people saying they would be OK with longer waits between big patches if it mean't male Viera were in the game ... Ok. You can feel that way or say that if you want, I think it's silly/ short sighted/ single minded and wholly lacking in perspective though. In the real world people come to and leave this game for other forms of entertainment all the time between updates. They are in a never ending fight for player's attention, money and time. New content is a major asset in keeping people coming back to this game and keeping this MMO from being a ghost town for months at a time (even if you're not interested in the content at the time BUT still sub ... you're sure to loss interest if everyone you know is gone and the towns are bare because everyone's playing something else since there's "Nothing to do" in FF14).

[polyphonica]

And people saying they would be OK with longer waits between big patches if it mean't male Viera were in the game ... Ok. You can feel that way or say that if you want, I think it's silly/ short sighted/ single minded and wholly lacking in perspective though.

Besides what you said (which is totally valid) the other part of the issue is you delay the whole patch cycle to account for a bigger workload in certain departments, that isn't balanced with the work that needs to be done by other departments that are okay with the current pacing. It's not easy to find extra tasks for these other teams that could fit into the small gap you've created each cycle.

It also may have long-term repercussions on things like the schedule for expansions, which are part of SE's long term budgetary planning. Right now they happen every two years, but if you delay all the patch cycles by two weeks, it adds up to about 2 1/2 to 3 months every expansion cycle. Over time it'd mean you'd get a cycle where FFXIV goes three fiscal years between expansions (even if it's only 2 1/4 years in real time), which would impact annual revenue and hurt the stock price.

So basically, they will want to find a way to make this happen on an on-going basis without disrupting the overall pacing of development. I don't think Yoshida was suggesting that there *isn't* a way, but at the moment they don't know, so don't want to make any promises. I do think people should keep the pressure up... in a respectful way.

[Kelryth]

and it's your place to be policing my trying to say something?

Its my place to tell you to butt out of my rising expectations. I'm a grown man, I can manage them perfectly fine on my own, thank you very much. I'm just going to go ahead and ignore you to avoid any further irritation.

[Kelryth]

If erp is not your thing at least you have a blacklist...lol

[Nalfein]

Strongly disagree as well. I would definitely unsub over longer patches. I'd love Viera dude to be a thing but let's be real they gave their answers already it's not that hard to understand.

[Sclair0]

I've posted previously on it. I would love male Viera, and I think it's something the team should get round to eventually. But lengthening the patch cycle would definitely cause sub drop offs. Cosmetics like races are an important part of an MMO, but there are other things that are more important. I'm content to please look forward to it as long as its something they work on eventually.