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  1. #20471
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    The point stands though - if a new tank is forced into mt, chances are they will fail here and there and if the rest of the raid isn't patient enough then someone with more experience should take charge instead of playing the kick game. Watching guides is one thing, putting it to practice is another.
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  2. #20472
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    Cylestea's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Luna Shadowmoon
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 80
    i never seen this B as main tank before, but then again as people said must be aJP data center thing. I mostly just see the wars go MT on Primal and Aether
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  3. #20473
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    Callinon's Avatar
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cylestea View Post
    i never seen this B as main tank before, but then again as people said must be aJP data center thing. I mostly just see the wars go MT on Primal and Aether
    I despise trying to MT in an alliance raid. We can even work it out in alliance chat beforehand and there will STILL be a struggle for supremacy as the other two tanks try desperately to rip hate off me, usually causing the boss to twitch around like he's seeing ALL the squirrels.
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  4. #20474
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    Hash_Browns's Avatar
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    Hash Browns
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    I despise trying to MT in an alliance raid. We can even work it out in alliance chat beforehand and there will STILL be a struggle for supremacy as the other two tanks try desperately to rip hate off me, usually causing the boss to twitch around like he's seeing ALL the squirrels.
    That's the point where you stop trying to aggro the boss and let them do the work.
    Your healers will love you.
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  5. #20475
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    Callinon's Avatar
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    That's the point where you stop trying to aggro the boss and let them do the work.
    Your healers will love you.
    That is what I usually do. But since the reality directly contradicts what was just discussed in alliance chat, there's usually a good interval there where I'm just wondering if I'm doing something wrong because the boss won't stay where he's supposed to.
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  6. #20476
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    HeyMcFly's Avatar
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    Khloe Entialpoh
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Was in lvling duty - had a new guy playing rogue & each time we would get LB up he would pop it on any mob, didn't matter if it was about to die or not. Even just 1 regular monster, I'm not super greedy DPS LB hoarder but it just kinda made me go 'Did he just...? on that mob?' It's not like it was even a tough mob. It was a Cactuar.
    - I asked him why he kept wasting LB he said 'it's FF, he likes using his LB & it helps clear mobs" I told him that the LB was shared by the group & wasn't singularly his & ideally if you use LB, use it on groups of mobs when you have AoE LB like casters/ ranged."
    He didn't listen & continued to blow LB another time. Get to boss, he uses LB immediately which makes no dent - needless to say, he died three times the chimera fight because he wouldn't listen to mechanics, healer just stopped bothering with him & he said we were toxic & elitists.

    -Another time, I was healer in Saint Mocianne's Arboretum - I love that dungeon, it reminds me so much of parasite eve or Resident evil- anyways, go in & tank immediately takes off to groups mobs (Fine) stops halfway & doesn't gather all of them & the tank back tracked to me, Somehow in a split moment I got caught in a Marlboros bad breath range, I moved immediately when I saw the cone but it was too late, I get all of the conditions & tank starts pulling the rest of the mobs -we wipe bc I'm silenced- I was like 'yeah...' Tank said they were going full ham I should know how by now how to handle it & I should have Esuna'd myself, I said "Should I tell him?" in regards to silence not allowing you to cast esuna lol. Needless to say, I was the worst & most clueless healer to that tank.
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  7. #20477
    Player
    Moonfish's Avatar
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    Autumn Stardust
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    Malboro
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sentaryuu View Post
    Just short one, but just now I wanted to do a leveling roulette on my alt's SCH before getting off for the night. But just before the pull after the first boss in the Vault I DC'd and couldnt get back in for a couple of minutes because it said the world was congested. Normally I don't DC, it just happened out of no where. And once I did get back in, I was found I was kicked. They couldn't wait 5min...
    5 minutes feels like an eternity when you’re just sitting around waiting.
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  8. #20478
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    DarkMasamune's Avatar
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    Miss Eclipse
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    Alpha
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HeyMcFly View Post
    Was in lvling duty - had a new guy playing rogue & each time we would get LB up he would pop it on any mob, didn't matter if it was about to die or not. Even just 1 regular monster, I'm not super greedy DPS LB hoarder but it just kinda made me go 'Did he just...? on that mob?'
    Oh boy, I lost count of how many times I had that thought when doing dungeons lmao.

    Once I got a guy in full Bahamut set in Sastasha (like, a few months ago ?) telling me HE should be doing the LB because HE had better gear, obviously ! He didn't understand the synch thing in earlier dungeons, and when I told him, he didn't believe me lol
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  9. #20479
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    van_arn's Avatar
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    Van Arn
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    Goblin
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    Kind of backwards thinking I've noticed in some of these stories. A bad DPS/Healer "He's fine let him play the way he wants!" or "It's his first time" but a legit person says "I would much rather not MT this the first time" they get hung out to dry. How can one learn if they are forced out, especially if they all kept insisting they do it but then burn em the moment they screw up. She already watched the videos and wanted to get OT experience.
    I'm perfectly fine kicking someone that causes multiple wipes 70+, first time or no, no matter what role.

    You meet your party's expectations or boot.

    Frankly, they caused so many wipes they should've been kicked earlier. They're clearly not cut out for the role in that content, they need to be held back a "grade," and they wasted the good will of 23 other people.

    Heck, the fact that 23 other people tolerated that many wipes should earn that party a medal for their patience.
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    Last edited by van_arn; 05-11-2019 at 03:02 AM.

  10. #20480
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    DumdogsWorld's Avatar
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    W'kohrahx Tia
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkMasamune View Post
    Oh boy, I lost count of how many times I had that thought when doing dungeons lmao.

    Once I got a guy in full Bahamut set in Sastasha (like, a few months ago ?) telling me HE should be doing the LB because HE had better gear, obviously ! He didn't understand the synch thing in earlier dungeons, and when I told him, he didn't believe me lol
    Funny thing is, according to various sources around the internet, apparently LB damage is tied to the cumulative weapon-ilvl/weapon-damage of the entire party. So even if he had better gear than the rest, it likely wouldn't matter unless his 'type' of LB was different (like AOE vs single-target).
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