Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[tinythinker]

Regarding the MSQ dungeon thing and similar arguments that pop up regularly in this thread...

- People have arguments in their heads and assumptions about what make some people "right" and others "wrong" and often react quickly when they see a chance to use them
- People often bring up whichever moral or ethical principles happen to support their own benefit at that particular time
- People love moralizing, that is, explaining why others are lacking some type of (supposed) virtue

Notice this isn't about which "side" someone is on. And if you watch, similar discussions often get away from the reported facts of what happened to arguments over how people should or shouldn't behave in a broad sense and then sometimes even to basic schoolyard "I know you are but what am I?" type stuff.

Yet we're all people playing a game for fun

So consider if you will:

Some will say that if you aren't 100% prepared when the dungeon or trial starts it's entitlement or disrespect to others. And perhaps sometimes it does seem fair to call it rude if the person is severely under-geared and has absolutely no idea how their job works. Yet, what if it's someone who clearly is trying but needs some quick explanations or tips here and there, is that 80-95% level of preparation and willingness to ask/learn a sign of entitlement or disrespect?

Or, is it the person who thinks they deserve a super-fast and quiet-as-the-grave run every time who is acting entitled? The game is full of people of all skill, knowledge, and experience levels who are also queueing up, and you know that. You accept it by choosing to play this game and not stick to FC/friend-only runs. As for the lament for the long dps queues or the person who needed to log off soon to sleep or work, where is the "personal responsibility" for choosing to queue as a dps *and* choosing to use a tool to group with random strangers who may or may not be able to finish the run as fast as you want?

Notice how easily these arguments can go either way, depending on which way suits us best in the moment.

We all have our expectations and wishes, and we all limits to our skill and our patience with others. When ours clash with the expectations, wishes, skill level, and degree of patience of others, we are annoyed. It's cool. So people blow off steam in this thread. Also cool.

No big point at the end. No sermon with a call for reflection or repentance. No lecture with a stated a lesson. I also have my expectations and wishes. I also worry if I'm terrible and annoying others, yet find myself wishing other people would play a little better. This is just an observation, one that people can make of what they will, or make nothing of at all. Go forth and have fun

[SerLuke]

So I decide to run mentor roulette against my better judgment I get anti tower on my PLD with 3 new players, run was going smooth then all of a sudden BLM runs ahead of me and aggros mobs(note I was pulling as much as allowed so it wasn’t cause I was pulling small).
So I nicely say “please don’t run ahead of me =) I don’t want to see you die because of aggro =)”

His response “I doubt I would, but Jenova players”

Thankfully the other two told them to stop

[Awful]

Sohm Al HM on my Sch alt I get the A team of dungeon groups:

The NIN with more HP than the tank because the NIN had fending on, didn't know how to use Ninjitsu, didn't AoE, didn't use Shadowfang.

The BLM whose rotation was Fire x 3, Transpose, Freeze x2, Blizz IV, Flare, had mind gear on.

The DRK who couldn't hold threat against me even with Lucid Dreaming on and never used Abyssal Drain but Shirked me at least so i'd keep threat on enemies so how thoughtful.

I managed to Lucid the first 2 tank busters on the scorpion at the end because I was pulling so much threat (seriously I had no idea what this DRK was doing) but I died at 5% when he did the last one, I got 0 comms and I tanked and healed the whole dungeon. I woulda bailed but I was a smidge away from hitting 70 on my alt SCH so I sucked it up.

[DarkMasamune]

Sohm Al HM on my Sch alt I get the A team of dungeon groups:

The NIN with more HP than the tank because the NIN had fending on, didn't know how to use Ninjitsu, didn't AoE, didn't use Shadowfang.

The BLM whose rotation was Fire x 3, Transpose, Freeze x2, Blizz IV, Flare, had mind gear on.

The DRK who couldn't hold threat against me even with Lucid Dreaming on and never used Abyssal Drain but Shirked me at least so i'd keep threat on enemies so how thoughtful.

I managed to Lucid the first 2 tank busters on the scorpion at the end because I was pulling so much threat (seriously I had no idea what this DRK was doing) but I died at 5% when he did the last one, I got 0 comms and I tanked and healed the whole dungeon. I woulda bailed but I was a smidge away from hitting 70 on my alt SCH so I sucked it up.

Wow. I'm sorry that you had to go throught this.

Althought to be honest, it's the kind of runs that I just tend to go in a idgaf mode and laugh it off, even thought its pretty annoying c:

[Lynesse]

Sohm Al HM on my Sch alt I get the A team of dungeon groups:

The NIN with more HP than the tank because the NIN had fending on, didn't know how to use Ninjitsu, didn't AoE, didn't use Shadowfang.

The BLM whose rotation was Fire x 3, Transpose, Freeze x2, Blizz IV, Flare, had mind gear on.

The DRK who couldn't hold threat against me even with Lucid Dreaming on and never used Abyssal Drain but Shirked me at least so i'd keep threat on enemies so how thoughtful.

I managed to Lucid the first 2 tank busters on the scorpion at the end because I was pulling so much threat (seriously I had no idea what this DRK was doing) but I died at 5% when he did the last one, I got 0 comms and I tanked and healed the whole dungeon. I woulda bailed but I was a smidge away from hitting 70 on my alt SCH so I sucked it up.

I am so sorry.

[Awful]

Wow. I'm sorry that you had to go throught this.

Althought to be honest, it's the kind of runs that I just tend to go in a idgaf mode and laugh it off, even thought its pretty annoying c:

I did laugh just because I was like how are you lvl 60+ and show up like this I only survived mostly because I got crit Adlos cept for the last part where I got jumped then tank bustered thought we could DPS fast enough but yeah it was deff one of those runs you don't forget. I wasn't even mad I was more amused that I had a NIN tank, BLM who was confused about what magicks to use and a cowardly DRK could probably make a show about it or something lmao.

[gumas]

I did laugh just because I was like how are you lvl 60+ and show up like this

some people just do damage and be happy with it, because i just got more or less the same group 10 minutes ago

the DRG just keep doing full thrust combo over and over, no OGCD no jump no BOTD nothing, he didnt do anything wrong though, in fact he play better than the other dps (BLM but keep getting hit by red aoe because cast time lol)

when i ask why he didnt do other rotation, he simply said "its hard, this combo is easier" he said to me that he has been doing this since pre HW...

DRG rotation... hard... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

when people say this game is very casual friendly, they are not joking about it lol

[KaleShibata]

Not a bad thing but it did mix it up: ended up in a Suisui of Violet Tides run on my BLM I'm trying to level, greetings are given and then I note the red mage is a mentor.

After the Hellos are given the Dark Knight adds 'welcome to the 'Shirk the Red Mage' run. and the scholar healer adds in and the not a scholar main run. My immediate thought is 'oh my god I might actually have a laugh today.'

True to his word the Dark Knight kept finding a moment to Shirk the red mage (If you are unfamiliar with this game its where the tank attempts to pick on a team mate at random times using shirk to attempt getting them killed. this is obviously not done in full random parties.) He actually didn't succeed until the second boss where he Shirked the red mage when they had no cooldowns. he dies obviously XD.

You might be thinking: that sounds normal. and then he tried Shirking me at the end. fails because I remember Aetherial manipulation, wait for the boss to get to me, teleport to him, set down ley lines, and run some from the boss before using Between the lines. he tried shirking the red mage again at the big crab group pull. fails only because there's only 4 mobs instead of 6. Boss fight goes perfectly.

GG I won 3 comms and the shirk game for being a good sport.

[Keddera_StormMoon]

some people just do damage and be happy with it, because i just got more or less the same group 10 minutes ago

the DRG just keep doing full thrust combo over and over, no OGCD no jump no BOTD nothing, he didnt do anything wrong though, in fact he play better than the other dps (BLM but keep getting hit by red aoe because cast time lol)

when i ask why he didnt do other rotation, he simply said "its hard, this combo is easier" he said to me that he has been doing this since pre HW...

DRG rotation... hard... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

when people say this game is very casual friendly, they are not joking about it lol

I can't really blame the guy. I found the full level 70 DRG very stressing to remember for the first 3 weeks I was 70 on my alt, Keddera.

I spent sooooo much time on practice dummies trying to get comfortable with that....

[AxlStream]

I can't really blame the guy. I found the full level 70 DRG very stressing to remember for the first 3 weeks I was 70 on my alt, Keddera.

I spent sooooo much time on practice dummies trying to get comfortable with that....

I know this is off topic but can you explain what you found difficult about DRG? I'm just curious as I am picking it up myself.