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  1. #19921
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    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkZeroUnit View Post
    oh the books things only drop weekly welp i wasted my time and learned something so not a total lose
    Not anymore. They removed the lockout several months ago. You can farm the fight and get all the pages/loot you want. You're probably reading an old guide of how the raid worked back then. Even the current tier is unlocked so you can farm it no problem.
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  2. #19922
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    Khorchi's Avatar
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    The Scrub
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    Zalera
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    I'm starting to load up my ARC to get it to 30 to unlock SCH and give my healing taste buds a new workout.
    Load into Levelling Roulette and out pops Thousand Maws.

    What I think is going to be a run that will take about 10-15 mins, turns out to be 20 mins... However it's the best 20 minute banter dungeon I've had in a while!
    Shout out to the WAR from Cactuar, SMN from Mateus and AST from Midgardsormr!
    Could be the start to a great joke too.
    An Aussie, a Canadian, a Scot and an English lass an walk into a dungeon... Haha!
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  3. #19923
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Alaha Vellonnu
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkZeroUnit View Post
    WWWWWEeeeeeee same day same duty finder


    152 minute wait? Should've claimed that table first.
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    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

  4. #19924
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drayce1 View Post
    I had a Titan Hard run where healers were wearing lv 5 jewelry, and the tank kept tanking titan in the center getting people killed x.x.

    I had to forcefully take aggro from him and position Titan correctly, funny thing is, the guy was in Ilv 400 gear, yet didnt know how to tank a Titan >.> Much less barely keep aggro from me while he had grit on and I didnt....

    sighs....... oh well, 5 comms from that one.
    I'm pretty sure many of the Titan fights I've done in roulettes had the Titan tanked in the middle (including by me). Titan drops in the middle, and rather than waiting for him to go to the tank, the tank would just go to Titan and start hitting him. Maybe there is a reason why tanking Titan at the edge would be more efficient, but tanking him in the middle is certainly doable and clearable nowadays, at least since the end of Heavensward as that's when I started playing.
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  5. #19925
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    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    I'm pretty sure many of the Titan fights I've done in roulettes had the Titan tanked in the middle (including by me). Titan drops in the middle, and rather than waiting for him to go to the tank, the tank would just go to Titan and start hitting him. Maybe there is a reason why tanking Titan at the edge would be more efficient, but tanking him in the middle is certainly doable and clearable nowadays, at least since the end of Heavensward as that's when I started playing.
    It depends.

    If we're talking about Titan HM+, Titan has 2 forms of cleave. The one in the last phase can one shot anyone that isn't a tank. If you keep Titan in the center, you're reducing the safe space area where the other players can maneuver in order to deal with mechanics, like the potato bombs or the landslides. While it's doable, it's annoying.

    It reminds me of the last boss in Skalla. The most optimal way I found to tank him, is on the edge of the area (Not completely, because melees have positionals and it can be annoying), facing sideways, so both the tail and the claw cleaves happen in a reduced space, the DPS have plenty of room to move around and they can run further away for the proximity damage AoE.
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    Last edited by Lilseph; 04-06-2019 at 04:42 AM.

  6. #19926
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Warrior Lv 50
    Just had the best run of Alphascape 4.0 Storymode as a WHM.

    I knew it was going to be a great run when, as the tanks were discussing who'd be the MT at the start, the BLM grabs aggro. The group is sloppy and we died to the DPS-check since 3 DPS were dead (Yes, turns out you can actually fail the DPS check!) because the one DPS alive didn't use the LB because they've "Never had to use it before". So, second go and it was even worse than the first. People are still dying to stacking on top of each other with targeted AoEs and being pushed off by Omega-F.

    All the while the BLM has been bitching about low DPS in the group. Naturally it's pointed out to them that they are in fact doing the least damage, even less than the healers. They adamantly claim that they do huge DPS but since dead people do 0 DPS and they have been dying constantly we're not buying it. So as we go in our third try, they die yet again and refuse to accept raises. So, we're left with 7 people.

    In our third attempt we passed the DPS check despite the BLM and moved on to an ~11 minute third phase. That's right, 11 minutes of managing MP and raises while people are still dying and handling tankbusters on both tanks while still helping with DPS when we can (my co-healer was thankfully doing a great job). At the end one of the tanks said we may as well give up because the laser spam is going to kill us (the other Omega-form was at about 45% HP when we took down the first). Cure III saved the day as we all hugged each other and managed to clear. Man, what a fight.
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  7. #19927
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    It depends.

    If we're talking about Titan HM+, Titan has 2 forms of cleave. The one in the last phase can one shot anyone that isn't a tank. If you keep Titan in the center, you're reducing the safe space area where the other players can maneuver in order to deal with mechanics, like the potato bombs or the landslides. While it's doable, it's annoying.
    The thing is, Titan turns around a lot, and if he's tanked in the middle, you can just run through him as there is more room to maneuver on the other side. It really depends on how the fight goes, I suppose. I just don't think I've ever seen any complaint in terms of positioning either way as long as the tank isn't intentionally facing Titan towards the party.
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  8. #19928
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    The thing is, Titan turns around a lot, and if he's tanked in the middle, you can just run through him as there is more room to maneuver on the other side. It really depends on how the fight goes, I suppose. I just don't think I've ever seen any complaint in terms of positioning either way as long as the tank isn't intentionally facing Titan towards the party.
    Titan rotates when he's going to trap someone in the gaol or when he uses landslide, then he faces the tank again. He's not going to cleave anyone when he does that as it only hits the tank. If I move to the tank side when he faces us for, say, landslide, I risk myself of getting cleaved afterwards. Which I've seen happen alot when the tank doesn't position the boss correctly. The fight can only go one way, as it's scripted. Ideally, as a tank, you want to make the life of your party easier, not only by holding aggro and mitigating damage but arranging a position that is comfortable for everyone. You won't see people complaining because they barely do it in DF, specially in trivial content like Titan. Overall, it's a good habit to develop as a tank to think of the rest of the group.
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  9. #19929
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    MariaArvana's Avatar
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    Maria Rubrum
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    The thing is, Titan turns around a lot, and if he's tanked in the middle, you can just run through him as there is more room to maneuver on the other side. It really depends on how the fight goes, I suppose. I just don't think I've ever seen any complaint in terms of positioning either way as long as the tank isn't intentionally facing Titan towards the party.
    Even when tanked on the edge, you're given a ton of room to maneuver around him. My bf never has issues as melee getting 100% uptime with positionals even when he's tanked on the edge.

    Whereas I've met the plenty lion's share of people who have zero awareness and would get themselves crushed anytime Titan was tanked middle by mountain buster. In addition, the edge tanking naturally gives more ways to bait and dodge weight of the land since most people naturally stay behind Titan so you're artificially reducing the amount of safe space in normal DF behaviour by keeping him mid. Keeping him edge also makes it more likely to survive landslide, since if you know you're going to get hit by it and run right at him, the landslide knockback isn't enough to slide you off the arena if you get knocked from one side of the arena to the other.

    Middle tanking is easily doable, but gives a higher margin of error and neutralizes several of the benefits edge tanking gives. It doesn't really matter nowadays due to the sheer outgearing we can do on the fight so no one really complains, but if a tank wants to position him optimally they'll move him to the edge.
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  10. #19930
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Encountering a Fire III Mage in Level 70 roulette. Was very easy to notice because there was a huge lack of Fire II, Flare and Foul (but hey, they remembered Thunder IV is a thing). Also mobs were dying pretty slow, despite a SAM+BLM combo.

    On the last set of mobs, I paid attention to the party list to really make sure I wasn't just imagining things. They really were just spamming Fire III (I asked in party chat if that's all they were doing. No response. During final boss, I was still paying attention to the party list and they were still spamming Fire III. "You are!" was the last thing I said to them).
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