Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Hash_Browns]

Had to do Orbonne Monastery today, and had a bunch of new people. We died a few times during Thunder God, and once during Ultima, the High Seraph (during her Ruination). I ain't got a problem with new people, but it seems many of the people in the raid were unhappy to get the raid via the roulette, and some people left.

The real problem happened during Thunder God when C didn't have a tank. As soon as I said we needed to wait for a tank in C, someone pulled and I got to watch C cave in on itself pretty quickly. Also was quite mad at having to revive one of the DPS in my alliance about 15 times during the raid.

[Aramina]

Did a run of Castrum Abania with a PLD who had level 250 clothing and died a couple of times on the last boss due to being killed in one shot. :P

I think I had that Paladin in a Bardam's Mettle once. He eventually blamed me (the healer) for his inability to pull half of Eorzea and decided (he thought) to be passive aggressive and do the tiniest pulls imaginable. I just let my fairy heal and dpsed while watching Netflix. You aren't hurting me buddy.

[Drayce1]

I had a Titan Hard run where healers were wearing lv 5 jewelry, and the tank kept tanking titan in the center getting people killed x.x.

I had to forcefully take aggro from him and position Titan correctly, funny thing is, the guy was in Ilv 400 gear, yet didnt know how to tank a Titan >.> Much less barely keep aggro from me while he had grit on and I didnt....

sighs....... oh well, 5 comms from that one.

[Dornob]

Had to do Orbonne Monastery today, and had a bunch of new people. We died a few times during Thunder God, and once during Ultima, the High Seraph (during her Ruination). I ain't got a problem with new people, but it seems many of the people in the raid were unhappy to get the raid via the roulette, and some people left.

The real problem happened during Thunder God when C didn't have a tank. As soon as I said we needed to wait for a tank in C, someone pulled and I got to watch C cave in on itself pretty quickly. Also was quite mad at having to revive one of the DPS in my alliance about 15 times during the raid.

I was in that raid! And yeah, us in Alliance C just kind of wanted to die quickly to reset since we got a tank literally just as TG ended up being pulled and it was just not great. I loved your goofy little welcoming of TG's destruction of you, though!

I was also tired of ressing a bunch of people after Ultima's mechanic bombardment...

[Zefiris]

Roulette Alliance Raids. Today gave Ridorana Lighthouse. Well, I was playing as Bard (iLvl 397) and in all bosses my agrro oscillated between yellow and red. Strange, my dps should not be high to obtain aggro there o.o

[HyoMinPark]

Roulette Alliance Raids. Today gave Ridorana Lighthouse. Well, I was playing as Bard (iLvl 397) and in all bosses my agrro oscillated between yellow and red. Strange, my dps should not be high to obtain aggro there o.o

BRD has some of the highest initial burst in the game if you perform an opener and your rotation correctly, and they have a burst window every 80 seconds. If you weren't rotating Refresh/Tactician to dump some of the aggro you were accruing through your burst windows, it's really no surprise that you spent time in the yellow/red. BRD can't quell its aggro in any way outside of Refresh/Tactician.


Having high aggro doesn't necessarily mean that you have high DPS. Same with having high DPS doesn't mean you'll have high aggro—with proper management, you can be top DPS but have some of the lowest enmity between DPS jobs. The two are independent of one another. This is not me saying that your DPS was surely terrible. It's just me saying that you don't need to have high damage to have high aggro. Especially on a job like BRD.

I’ve seen players on jobs like BRD, RDM, and BLM that are dealing less personal damage than a tank, but since they aren’t quelling/mitigating their enmity generation, they border on ripping hate against a tank that is trying to optimize in their DPS stances.

Of course, you could have also had a bunch of crappy tanks that were doing a poor job, but BRD is generally a high-enmity job.

[Lammas]

Decided to make an alt and I ran the 3 first dungeons yesterday as CNJ. Sastasha was pretty derpy with a first timer marauder who couldn't quite keep hate and didn't know where to go but in this case I think the BRD pulling for him quite often was a nice clear fast solution to the problem. Kinda weird but whatever.
Copperbell had a gladiator who asked if others had AOE for whether to pull more or not. No one had so he didn't pull more but for whatever reason he could also never wait until we had all the mobs finished decided to run off with one or 2 of them in half health while also making it harder for me and the ACN to do damage because we can run & gun. That part with 2 rooms on the side with bombs dropping firesand was hilarious because he, of course managed to yoyo the enemies in and out of their leash ranges several times. Annoying but again, whatever.

The Tam Tara in the middle though... Oh boy. That was one of the funniest runs I've experienced for all the wrong reasons. GLA, DRG, ACN and me. The gladiator kept trying to pull with flash only to use it while nothing was within its range through out the dungeon and of course usually only doing it once so once he missed that was it. He seemed totally oblivious to the fact that he was hitting nothing or only 1 enemy at the best of times. Not to worry though; we have back up! The arcanist has Topaz carbuncle out so it's always tanking one of the enemies while the dragoon is tanking another that the tank may or may not get back before it's dead. Once the gladiator had used flash and missed, this dragoon always used his spear toss so he got the initial aggro. Once the tank ran into a useless side room but considering I'm on level I didn't mind the extra mobs.

In one corridor the tank decided to move behind corner while I had cure queued on him, had already switched to an enemy for stone cast so I had to run after him and target him again and... nothing happens. Should've realized what's wrong but I'm not very used to healing and just did it again. I join the absolute champions by letting the tank die because I apparently hit f1 instead of f2 and I'm casting cure on myself. I don't have swiftcast so I start ressing but the tank releases before I'm through. Probably for the better, really because we could handle the mobs anyway. DRG either has had enough or relies on topaz as he continues pulling the next mob, no problems there.
There were some other derps here too but nothing too major. In the last boss the adds took ridiculously long to kill so I'm just assuming someone kept targetting the boss or something.

I probably would've normally been quite annoyed by this kind of run or maybe would've stopped to say something about the flash and topaz at least but the total silliness of the run just piling on top of itself as we went along was too amusing for me.

EDIT: I did learn one new thing from the Copperbell tank that I never knew before. He got the last adds before the boss room and just ran into the cutscene trigger and *poof*, the mobs despawned. I didn't know that is a thing! Does that work in other dungeons too?

[NekoNova]

I'm in the process of leveling all my jobs, and I was working on my BLM.
So after a horrendous long DPS Queue, I finally get into a group and we get Brayflox.
As soon as everyone loaded, the tank decided it wasn't worth it, and the healer and DPS left as well.


I JUST SPENT 30 MINS WAITING FOR A QUEUE TO POP AND YOU PULL THIS SHIT?
AS A MAIN TANK : FUCK YOU


Luckily I waited for the PF to find new people.
After 5 minutes a nice dragoon popped in, and then an amazing Paladin and healer showed up.
Was the most fun run ever.

[Ceridwenae]

I'm in the process of leveling all my jobs, and I was working on my BLM.
So after a horrendous long DPS Queue... <snip!>

... have you noticed since we got split into two different EU centres DPS queues are much worse? I was waiting for an hour for a trial that never popped the other night (managed it last night though, earlier in the evening). I mean, obviously it makes sense things might take longer, but can't help but think it's not particularly brilliant all the same.

[TheMightyMollusk]

EDIT: I did learn one new thing from the Copperbell tank that I never knew before. He got the last adds before the boss room and just ran into the cutscene trigger and *poof*, the mobs despawned. I didn't know that is a thing! Does that work in other dungeons too?

Copperbell is weird in that it's the only dungeon where mobs will leash back if pulled too far. Anywhere else, they stay with you.