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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Elidibus Stuff
    First off, while I can see everyone's point they are trying to make, What you said about 4.2 isn't necessarily true. We do not see the Ascian's face. We do not see his mask. We are unable to identify him, other than to speculate his identity based on his actions, motives, and speech.

    Second, Yes, High Ranking Ascians have different masks to identify than. Problem is, they do not show their mask. They are inhabiting bodies. Until we have a glimpse of them using their power, similar to Lahabrea in the final battle of ARR where his mask is brought down in front of Thancred's face, you have no clue who is sanding in front of us.


    @Soveia , Where did that picture you posted come from? I see no source for it. I could just as easily put together something like that in Photoshop. Obviously, if YoshiP officially puts it out there, we have little to argue about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WarzonePrez View Post
    @Soveia , Where did that picture you posted come from? I see no source for it. I could just as easily put together something like that in Photoshop. Obviously, if YoshiP officially puts it out there, we have little to argue about.
    From the American Fan Fest. 43 minutes and 39 seconds in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WarzonePrez View Post
    First off, while I can see everyone's point they are trying to make, What you said about 4.2 isn't necessarily true. We do not see the Ascian's face. We do not see his mask. We are unable to identify him, other than to speculate his identity based on his actions, motives, and speech.
    We are able to identify him, because of the scene shown in 4.0 then revisited in 4.4, that Alucard posted above.


    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    That's Elidibus. We knew in 4.0 that it was someone Varis recognised, and Zenos was always the likely candidate (although alternately people thought Asahi might have been Elidibus's unmasked normal form).

    The screenshot above from 4.4 revisits that scene, and shows the player what Varis saw the first time - Zenos's face underneath Elidibus's white robes - and if you want to get particular about the mask, that is also recognisably Elidibus's even though we can only see the back of it. You can see the inside curve of the "beak" shape that is the most noticable feature of it.


    If you want to insist that it might not be Elidibus and may instead be some other previously unmentioned white-robed Ascian... that hypothetical character is probably also tasked with keeping the balance, and is still trying to kill us to perserve that balance.


    If you're unconvinced, don't cling too tightly to the idea that it must be someone else, even if you prefer to interpret it that way. Keep in mind that it may be the writers' intention that you know it's Elidibus at this point, even if you personally have come to a different conclusion. Otherwise your understanding of the story might be affected by it.
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