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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Like how stormblood was arr part 3, and heavensward was arr part 2, or arr was 1.0 part 2?

    It's all an interconnected story, of course it feels like a continuation lol.
    That's not entirely accurate.

    ARR's main storyline thrust was finished upon completion of 2.0. The 2.x content meandered around for a bit and then started pushing toward Heavensward, but was definitely distinct from the main conflict of 2.0. Heavensward's main storyline thrust was finished upon completion of the Dragonsong War at the end of 3.3. The content for 3.4 on began pushing toward Stormblood. Stormblood's main storyline quest... hasn't really ended. We've had a few detours before getting back to the main conflict, but the issues surrounding the Warriors of Darkness, Zenos, and the Ascians (specifically relating to their involvement with Garlemald) have essentially taken center stage for over two years now, and look slated to continue into Shadowbringers.

    So it's far, far more appropriate to call Shadowbringers 'Stormblood part 2' than it is to make that claim about any previous expansions.
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirsten_Rev View Post
    That's not entirely accurate.

    ARR's main storyline thrust was finished upon completion of 2.0. The 2.x content meandered around for a bit and then started pushing toward Heavensward, but was definitely distinct from the main conflict of 2.0. Heavensward's main storyline thrust was finished upon completion of the Dragonsong War at the end of 3.3. The content for 3.4 on began pushing toward Stormblood. Stormblood's main storyline quest... hasn't really ended. We've had a few detours before getting back to the main conflict, but the issues surrounding the Warriors of Darkness, Zenos, and the Ascians (specifically relating to their involvement with Garlemald) have essentially taken center stage for over two years now, and look slated to continue into Shadowbringers.

    So it's far, far more appropriate to call Shadowbringers 'Stormblood part 2' than it is to make that claim about any previous expansions.
    The ascians ties to garlemald have been a plot point since 2.0, as lahabrea was using gaius with Ultima. Warriors of darkness was a 3.0 plot point. The liberation of Ala mhigo and Doma has been talked about since late 2.0, when yugiri showed up. The ishgard plot has been around since 1.0. I was able to stand at the gates and look at ishgard 5 years before the expansion launched.
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  3. #13
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirsten_Rev View Post
    That's not entirely accurate.

    ARR's main storyline thrust was finished upon completion of 2.0. The 2.x content meandered around for a bit and then started pushing toward Heavensward, but was definitely distinct from the main conflict of 2.0. Heavensward's main storyline thrust was finished upon completion of the Dragonsong War at the end of 3.3. The content for 3.4 on began pushing toward Stormblood. Stormblood's main storyline quest... hasn't really ended. We've had a few detours before getting back to the main conflict, but the issues surrounding the Warriors of Darkness, Zenos, and the Ascians (specifically relating to their involvement with Garlemald) have essentially taken center stage for over two years now, and look slated to continue into Shadowbringers.
    Stormblood's main story line has ended IMO.
    Just like Heavensward's main story was about ending the Dragonsong War, the story of Stormblood was about the liberation of Ala Mhigo and Dhoma - and that story ended with Castrum Fluminis.
    Everything involving Ascians, Warriors of Darkness, etc is part of the game's overarching storyline rather than beloning to the main storyline of any expansion
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    The thing is, it's one thing to have a plot point, and using it, or else it's just world building information. Without the trailers and fanfests specifically telling us we'd be going to the First and become a warrior of darkness (the selling point of the expansion), we'd have no idea what ShB would be about, aside maybe fighting more Garleans...which....we spent all SB doing. If anything, it'd lead people to believe we're going to Garlemald instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    The thing is, it's one thing to have a plot point, and using it, or else it's just world building information. Without the trailers and fanfests specifically telling us we'd be going to the First and become a warrior of darkness (the selling point of the expansion), we'd have no idea what ShB would be about, aside maybe fighting more Garleans...which....we spent all SB doing. If anything, it'd lead people to believe we're going to Garlemald instead.
    Yeah, I agree. We don't have a lot of reason to trust the Enigmatic Guy, and right now it really does seem like the Garleans and Zenos are the most pressing issues. Yeah, the comatose Scions deal is a bummer, but the Garleans are the clear and present danger.

    "You've taken the souls of my friends, and now you're telling me that I need to go to the First Shard? Minfilia's already on the job there, and even if I was nuts enough to trust you, if I DID go to the First Shard, the Garleans would make sure I have nothing left to return home to. No thanks."
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    Another patch? Yes. More MSQ? Nope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai_Lee View Post
    Shadowbringer? Oh you mean Stormblood part 2.
    how it is part 2? stormblood was about liberating ala mhigo and doma, shadowbringers seems to have very little to do with that, it has us going to another world, stormblood and shadowbringers seem to be mostly separate stories.
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    So no one even mentions coil but hildebrand? Really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    So no one even mentions coil but hildebrand? Really?
    Hildebrand is easy, coil requires mechanics in many of the fights
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Hildebrand is easy, coil requires mechanics in many of the fights
    Coil still has a better story also hildebrand is not easy its painful and seriously irritating.
    Also i never stated coil would be faceroll...well thanks to the unsync option it mostly is.

    I know that most people are already overwhelmed by coil mechanics but thats still not a reason to not mention it because the person that asks could like a little challenge and a great storyline!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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