Gender Locks Have Revealed the Worst in Players.

[Imuka]

Someone playing as a male or female viera adds absolutely nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada. Doesn't affect your raid composition, whether you craft items for that race, story, etc.

For something that, as said before, is not even content, since it has no impact at all on everything you do in this game.

I quote myself here...lazy me.

I have to highly disagree with that Part.
Saying that something is "only a cosmetic, nothing more, nothing less" is from my View saying that "Design/Look does not really matter.".

Going from that, we could ask,
"Why is there even a Character Creator in the Game if it is just cosmetics and instead gave us more Dungeons?,
"Why are there Websites and Facebook Groups of 14 Players, showing Glamour combinations for Characters?",
"Why do Players spend time in this Game for the looks of their Character if it is just cosmetics?".
Why does 14 Glamour even exist if it is just cosmetics?

Why if it is just cosmetics are Players spending Money for the Glamour and Mounts from the Mog Store.
The Bike and the fat Catand many others are just cosmetics to have a different Chocobo.
Why do we even have more than just basic male Humans if it is just cosmetics to make the Character look nicer for a Player?

Just imagine every single Character in this Game would look like Fungus the Bogeyman.
98% of the Players would absolutly hate it and the the other 2% would feel strangely amused everytime they see an NPC and find it amazing.
(count me in for the 2% here. )

[yukiiyuki]

Also, me and many others have canceled our subscriptions over this gender lock.

Here you go, play another game, sign the petition for SE to add missing genders, come back when they add male Viera, cry on forums if they don't look like you want and unsub again (or play happily if you like them).

Defending decisions is not a good side as well, but the game have bigger problems than just missing genders. Server issues, slow UI, low-res textures, damage registration, 200 slots for glamour sets with only 10 plates, can't go in solo duty without leaving a party and we're literally sliding on ground when using skills in 2k19. And on top of that, we can get an Switch port, so it can became new PS3 for us, delaying any improvements to engine for like another eternity.

[Kallera]

Except it's not "unfinished", it's "spreading ressources to not please only one part of the playerbase".
With male Viera instead of male Hrothgar, those who'd like to play a beast race (Something that doesn't exist right now as opposed to already having cute animal-human characters) would have been screwed. And designing two full races would have taken ressources from something else, meaning that we would have all been screwed with less content, even those who don't care at all about changing races.

For something that, as said before, is not even content, since it has no impact at all on everything you do in this game. And for those who claim that it's important for RP, It really bugs me how you can do proper RP if you change race and/or sex every time a new flavor comes into the game. Isn't your character supposed to have a background, a family, etc ?

...you don't roleplay, do you?

There are characters that have been waiting on the wings since it was teased. female and male, and villains too!

[Nashred]

We have people complaining about people complaining. Which is worse?

Debating is one thing.

i just do not get because someone doesn't agree with someone that they can not let people have their own opinion.

Why do people think if someone disagrees with them you are a troll or a cry baby.

People have no respect for each others opinion.

It is a video game who cares.

[Aeirou]

I like the lore-based implications of different races and gender-locked characters in terms of lore. I would rather have lore of how these races continue to exist amid having only one gender, and how it’s effected their culture in game, rather than having every race be inclusive and mirror gender dynamics in the real world.

I think people are extremely quick to label and enrage because there are no dude bunnies, but what if the Viera are essentially Lesbians, and Hrothgar are gay? We don’t have these lore details yet, but you have men and woman rushing anger and judging on what little information we do have.

I get that inclusion is important to people, but I have to say - I’m far more interested in the story being told than fighting to make every story mirror a reality I play games to escape from.

[whiskeybravo]

Personally, IDGAF about the genders, or lack there of. What I have a problem with is the selfish knee-jerk reaction of society nowadays to claim there must be some sort of foul play at work, homophobia, sexism, whatever the hell you want to call it.

NO.

The people at SE are artists. This is their creation. Did Leonardo Da Vinci get publicly hanged for only painting a female instead representing both genders equally? No, he did not.

Of course they are a business, so it's up to them to balance how much they want to remain true to their creative origins or shift towards what their customers want. Refusing to accept this reality is childish and selfish. Demanding that SE cater to your idealogy of equal gender representation is selfish and almost dangerous because it clouds what gender should really represent.

I'll rip SE along with anyone else when I think they screw up. Can't agree here though, sorry.

[Alucard135]

Defending decisions is not a good side as well, but the game have bigger problems than just missing genders. Server issues, slow UI, low-res textures, damage registration, 200 slots for glamour sets with only 10 plates, can't go in solo duty without leaving a party and we're literally sliding on ground when using skills in 2k19. And on top of that, we can get an Switch port, so it can became new PS3 for us, delaying any improvements to engine for like another eternity.

How dare you ask for actual improvements?! Wasting more resources into making 2 full races and not have them gender-locked is much more important!

[Lacan]

How dare you ask for actual improvements?! Wasting more resources into making 2 full races and not have them gender-locked is much more important!

Making new races at this point in the game was a waste of resources to begin with. SE made the choice to do so, so you can't blame people for wanting the new races to have both genders. We were originally going to have 1 new race with both male and female options, but due to fan demand they changed course and canceled the Hrothgar females to make Viera instead. If they take fan demand seriously enough to do something like that, they should take it seriously enough to remove the genderlocks too.


Personally, I would have been happier with just male and female Hrothgar and no Viera period. Would have been less messy than what we have now, since if they keep the races like this they're always going to feel incomplete and arbitrarily restricted.

[Seraphor]

A complete feature is better than an incomplete feature. It's better, in principle, to demand that SE give us higher quality content, because if we accept crap, the bar gets lowered and the game gets worse. It has happened in the history of every MMORPG ever. Unfinished, rushed content is what killed the original FFXIV, and it's also what killed FFXV.

Some of you may not care about male viera or female hrothgar, but you're being short sighted. Pay them for half finished crap, and one day they'll stint on something you really do want.

As far as I’m aware, you can’t play as both genders at once. Neither female Viera or male Hrothgar are “incomplete” you can only choose one race or gender at a time, and whatever you choose out of the options available, you will have the same amount of content at your disposal.
(Viera and Hrothgar head equipment is a whole other issue though which I'm not defending)

It’s a subjective viewpoint that a race is incomplete unless it has both genders.
You could also argue that a race is incomplete unless it has all ages available too, and we don’t have any children or elderly options for any of them.
You could argue that our options are incomplete because we don’t have the option to play as a Garlean, or as a hyur-elezen hybrid like Hilda, or as a fat Miqote in the trailer.

We still have two options, a male option and a female option.

It was the developers creative choice to create the Hrothgar, and resources meant a compromise had to be made to include both them and Viera.
I don’t think creative decisions should be made out of a compulsion to ‘avoid’ genderlocking if that’s not what they want to do.
It was actually the Hrothgar they wanted to make, the Viera are the fanservice race they shoehorned in to appease people. I doubt any of you would be happy if they had only implemented Hrothgar.

And I'll say this again. If they had made just the one race, we would never have seen the other. As it stands, we have a real chance of them unlocking the other genders in the future. This is the best of all worlds.

[Reynhart]

they cant "wear" helmets and will be working on them during ShB that sounds pretty "unfinished" to me

Adding new design for Viera gear has nothing to do with them being "finished"...but it has probably something to do with "we won't delay ShB for cosmectics consideration because we're aware that it would probably screw more people than simply the playerbase that only cares for Viera"

...you don't roleplay, do you?

Not much in that game, no. But if I did, I would stay faithful to the lore.