What consumers expect of a FF-title

[AdvancedWind]

"One spin off game sold less than the main series game. Final Fantasy is finished!"

[Lucifer]

"One spin off game sold less than the main series game. Final Fantasy is finished!"

XIII-2 is not a spin-off--it's a sequel.
Same with X-2.

Regardless, I agree. People need to simmer down.

[AdvancedWind]

XIII-2 is not a spin-off--it's a sequel.
Same with X-2.

Regardless, I agree. People need to simmer down.

Just to add: X-2 also sold less than X, and as far as I know, X was a well received game.

And sequels are considered spin offs, at least in my book. You know, FFIV After Years, VII compilation, revenant wings, x-2, etc...

EDIT: In fact, all FF sequels sold less than the main game.

[DNO]

XIII-2 is not a spin-off--it's a sequel.
Same with X-2.

Regardless, I agree. People need to simmer down.

This is most definitely a spin-off or it would be called ff15. 13-TWO is a spin-off of 13

[Lucifer]

This is most definitely a spin-off or it would be called ff15. 13-TWO is a spin-off of 13

No.
Final Fantasy 2-14 are not sequels of FF1.
FF8 is not the sequel to FF7. Ok?
Ok.

A spin-off is something in the same universe with no ties to the original cast.
FF13-2 has the same cast with events taking place RIGHT after FF13.

Blame Square for naming all their games, Final Fantasy.
lol

[grandm]

No.
Final Fantasy 2-14 are not sequels of FF1.
FF8 is not the sequel to FF7. Ok?
Ok.

A spin-off is something in the same universe with no ties to the original cast.
FF13-2 has the same cast with events taking place RIGHT after FF13.

Blame Square for naming all their games, Final Fantasy.
lol

can't believe i'm liking something the devil wrote (u know i love you really) but this is totally true

FF1-14, stand alone games
FF10-2 and FF13-2, sequels to their representative number
dirge of cerberus and advent children, spin off's of FF7

[syntaxlies]

No.
Final Fantasy 2-14 are not sequels of FF1.
FF8 is not the sequel to FF7. Ok?
Ok.

A spin-off is something in the same universe with no ties to the original cast.
FF13-2 has the same cast with events taking place RIGHT after FF13.

Blame Square for naming all their games, Final Fantasy.
lol

one thing, a spin of usually does have a tie to the original cast. King of the hill>beavis and butthead, joey>friends, clevland>family guy.

the phrase spinoff is implying the tie actually. It spun off the original.

[DrekeLamorte]

No.
Final Fantasy 2-14 are not sequels of FF1.
FF8 is not the sequel to FF7. Ok?
Ok.

A spin-off is something in the same universe with no ties to the original cast.
FF13-2 has the same cast with events taking place RIGHT after FF13.

Blame Square for naming all their games, Final Fantasy.
lol

Wrong.

Spin-off in regards to a series. "Something that is imitative or derivative of an earlier work, product, or establishment; especially : a television show starring a character popular in a secondary role of an earlier show "

Therefore, anything that has atleast one returning cast member in the same universe as the original work.

In case you didn't know, FFX is a sequel to FFVII, as far as timeline and world. It's canon. Look it up.

Regardless, spin-offs are almost never as well received as the original work, but if FFXII-2 has more to offer than XII did, it will put SE back on a steady track. XII was an excellent game as far as it's own standards and system was concerned. The combat was fun and engaging, but reminiscent enough to play to the nostalgia crowd. It was hokey as far as story, and there were very few characters worth caring about. The lack of exploration during gameplay was hard to swallow for many, but you really need to accept this for quite a few more years. The costs of "HD"ifying all games now is a massive weight to burden.

Technology has allowed games to peak graphically, and it's really a matter of artistic style and expression now. I grew up with a better generation of games, and that may be long past, but I'll be damned before I allow some 15 year old's to tell us older gamers that any of those games were bad.

With this new generation expecting only HD graphics, they rob themselves of what it means to play a GAME. It's not an alternative visual media platform. It's not hollywood. Nor should it be. It's functionality, ingenuity, creativity, and so much more.

Nostalgia allows us to set standards. If SE wants to continue masquerading behind a franchise name, they sure as hell better keep plugging those franchise traits in to their works. Otherwise, the entire FF name will be a farce, and the fanbase will 'grow up.'


Hope was one of those "only believable characters" from XII I was referring too.

[Lucifer]

Wrong.

No.
I should have stated; no ties to the cast and or plot.
Since FF13-2 takes place after the events of 13, it is an obvious sequel.

FF10 being a sequel to 7 is bs. How does one guy of FOUR people; get to write his own story and say "yeah this is the sequel to FF7 because I'd like to think its like that" (Those are his own translated words I believe. He never mentioned it was a sequel though but people and their autistic judgement...)

It's not a sequel. Take that terribly translated interview with a grain of salt.

[grandm]

No.
I should have stated; no ties to the cast and or plot.
Since FF13-2 takes place after the events of 13, it is an obvious sequel.

FF10 being a sequel to 7 is bs. How does one guy of FOUR people; get to write his own story and say "yeah this is the sequel to FF7 because I'd like to think its like that" (Those are his own translated words I believe. He never mentioned it was a sequel though but people and their autistic judgement...)

It's not a sequel. Take that terribly translated interview with a grain of salt.

the devil is so right. there i no way 10 can be considered a sequel to 7, despite the fact the world that 7 is set on looks nothing like the world of 10 (even if it is 5000 years in the past, there would be similarity's). no, there is no way FF7 is set on spira. and even if SE had an official press release (and not one man's deluded views) i still would have a hard time believing it.

but anyway if some1 could convince me that FF7 was set on spira. that would make FF10 a spin off not a sequell