Yoshi-P considering feedback on the new races

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

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-Yup, this is true
-This is also true, but just because Jhonney725 got the ultra ultimate blade in the last expansion doesn't me coming in a year later locks me out of getting it in my own playthrough. His play-through does not affect mine.
-Airships, TP crystals, etc does not mean they have been sighted and have come out of hiding. We don't know how connected to their culture a male Viera is...because we have yet to see one that went deviant. Hasn't happened yet. No reason for it to happen yet
-You can do better? Neat, Then go make your own game or own book and do it. Don't try to alter another game to fit what you personally want.
-Even with that storyline you think would work, it'll still cause the same issue we have today - Change the lore/fix it. See that? Nothing was resolved, people are still upset
-The Male Viera just out of nowhere for no reason coming of hiding retcons their lore by itself. Its also a lazy reason just to make people happy.

-At the end of the day, thats all these are...thoughts

[SoulEchelon]

Gonna be my final post here cuz I just realized this is taking up way too much of my free time.

But in case anyone hasn't seen it yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGezcBuu-mc Mr. Happy had an interview with Yoshi-P, and the first two questions directly talk about the current situation. Go have yourselves a look. (and if someone else already posted it, oops) Either way, see you in Shadowbringers.

[Melichoir]

I "Snip" because of the word limit.



So next time someone tells you they have a little experience in a topic, I want you to point them in the face and call them a snob, because that's what you're doing. If you're this hurt by someone simply explaining where they're coming from, then I highly suggest you never join a debate team. You're making a mountain out of a molehill, and stoking flames where there isn't any. You can continue if you want, but I won't acknowledge it.

Annnnnd everything else I've already answered. Read up, won't repeat myself, and won't be answering you again. Argument over.

Ive read your answers,a nd it wasnt till a more recent post that I gave you some credit. Before that, youre points were kinda meh at best and bleh at worst.

As for snobbery, yeah, youre a snob. Snobbery isnt speaking about your expertise, but how you present your expertise (and self.) Im not the one hurt here, Im the one criticizing your position as what I see as snobbery. You want to make points, do so without credential dropping or becoming incensed someone said something that you thought delegitimizes you. As I said, you shouldnt be getting triggered over other people's opinions.

Oh well.

[CaptnYesterday]

A shame. Never give into terrorism or selective outrage culture.

[Amariel34]

Gonna be my final post here cuz I just realized this is taking up way too much of my free time.

But in case anyone hasn't seen it yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGezcBuu-mc Mr. Happy had an interview with Yoshi-P, and the first two questions directly talk about the current situation. Go have yourselves a look. (and if someone else already posted it, oops) Either way, see you in Shadowbringers.

Thank you for the video link. Going to watch it when I have time.

[Neoyoshi]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sq.../1100-6465810/



The missing genders might not be off the table just yet.

Did they ever state that they were? :O

[Melichoir]

There was some assumption due to some of the things being said.

[Shougun]

Gonna be my final post here cuz I just realized this is taking up way too much of my free time.

But in case anyone hasn't seen it yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGezcBuu-mc Mr. Happy had an interview with Yoshi-P, and the first two questions directly talk about the current situation. Go have yourselves a look. (and if someone else already posted it, oops) Either way, see you in Shadowbringers.

Just in case people wanted to know what was said before listening to all of the questions:

Many western players were surprised when it was revealed that Hrothgar and Viera would not have both genders available, especially after the efforts the team went through to provide more options with Miqo’te and Roegadyn in 2.0. Why did the team decide to do two different races with one gender each instead of one race with both genders?

A.) The timing of the game launch, the races needed to have each gender counterpart for ARR. When I took over for ARR, I wanted to fill the missing gender to make those races seem complete. What is different now compared to then. After multiple expansions, the situation isn’t the same as when we released the base game. My answer will be quite long…

This game has been launched for 6 years currently. It has tens of thousands of armors available. We have to make sure every race can use every outfit correctly. The more unique the appearance of the race, the more difficult these adjustments are to make.

When we create one gear, we have to make adjustments so it fits all these different races. So when we add new races, we have to adjust how to approach this process. The development cost for making a new race is very intense because of how much work we put into the graphics of the game. We also have to make sure these things all work properly. Thats why we are saying these may be the last races because of how taxing it is on the development team.

We wanted to give players options and freedom to choose more races. We envisioned adding a new race, but people really wanted the Viera to play in-game. So if we add another new race that isn’t Viera, people might wonder why we didn’t do Viera, so we had to add them for sure.

We had a big discussion back when we added Au ra in Heavensward about whether to add Au ra or Viera. We knew we only had Female Viera for reference, so we had no idea what to do for the Male variant. We would have to use our own imagination for that. There was fear about how we would approach that. Perhaps an elezen body with a miqo’te face and bunny ears. Would this be the right way to add this race to the game?

When we create a fantasy game, especially for FF14. We have a good variety of races. We don’t really need any more cute or sweet looking characters because we have so many as it is.

Especially for FF14, we have many symbols of power or strength such as Highlander and Roegadyns. We wanted something more animal like. Its not that we wanted to create a wild west of characters, but we do need a good variety. So the simple answer is: Viera was sought after so we had to add those. To expand the game and its options, we also wanted to add Hrothgar.

(Q) As a follow up, is the team considering adding the other gender for these two races in future expansions?

A.) Short answer is we haven’t made a decision on that. The reason why we can’t say for sure. We need to optimize our work flow with the existing races and the new ones. After that, perhaps we do the other gender. But we don’t know right now.

We did consider Male Viera instead of adding an extra race, but we tried to take player feedback on adding a more beast like race as well as the strong desire to receive Viera. We did expect strong feedback on the gender lock. It was a tough decision, but we decided to do our best to meet both the player feedback and our development team’s vision. It will be very costly to add a new race or genders. So I won’t say no, but I would not like to set expectations high.

We haven’t had time to look at all of the feedback since this is our first day back at the office after the Tokyo Fan Festival. What was the general feedback from NA based on your experience? Were they upset about no Male Viera, no Female Hrothgar or both?

Me.) It has been a heated topic. Some players are okay, while many players are upset about the gender locking. Many are disappointed about no Male Viera, but with the Female Hrothgar I’ve seen some people be even more upset. This is because in The First Shard they are called Ronso, and in FFX there are plenty of female Ronso.

A.) Thank you for the insight. Currently, we are putting together all the feedback. Depending on the feedback we are considering an official statement on the forums

Tl;dr This wasn't because Yoshida thought "eww boys" it was because he wanted to deliver the highly sought after female viera but also really wanted to create something new for the players, and they will be taking player feedback into consideration for what to do next. It actually felt like a good question and answer so props to the interviewer and interviewee (Mr. Happy / Yoshida).

So what I hope we could do is spread that basically in three different ways (our last few interviews) Yoshida has said it's due to choice variety and player feedback is valued, so don't get too down the male viera gate is not closed but respectful yet powerful feedback could absolutely be your key to getting them unlocked. I for one, not excited for the gender lock, but fully agree that beast race is more unique than another pretty looking male (which, imo, we have loads - but no beasts until now)... that isn't to say i'm like "yay gender locks lol" I'm with you guys that it would be nice to see the other side of things.

Anyway please spread it, especially as this answer / question is very clear on what the reason was. It's not Matsuno, it's not "ewww boys", and it's not hopeless if you wanted to see them unlocked (just be sure to know that feedback and patience are both important now).

[Falzer117]

I hope its within the 5.0 patch cycle the earlier the better.

[BiddyBatnana]

I suppose we should wait for the official statement on the forum then gosh I'm stressed.