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  1. #11
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    kidalutz's Avatar
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    After reading through a plethora of posts on this forum I have come to the following conclusion. We have one group who is clearly upset over the gender locks and has come to the forums to voice their opinion, and another group who appears complacent and seeks to shut down any dissent aka “white knighting.”

    Let me say this. Glamour and races may not matter to you. Congrats. It matters to a lot of other people though and you don’t have the right to make them feel like trash. Attacks have been flung at people who wanted male Viera due to sexuality, masculinity/feminity, etc. These comments are vicious and have no place here. The true sexism and homophobia is coming from the people making these comments, along with whoever decided to go through with the gender locks.

    Also, me and many others have canceled our subscriptions over this gender lock. The people telling us to stay gone are a plague on this community and their complacency will only let more and more bad decisions to go by without positive and negative feedback. This forum is not only for saying “Yay I’m happy!” We have the right to voice our discontent on here too, and telling us to go and stay gone makes you look like a tremendously uncaring person.

    Lastly, let’s discuss threats. Telling me that “natural selection should come for me” in response to my posts in the Gender Lock thread is not an acceptable way to argue pro-gender lock points. That comment was so extreme that I’m surprised the poster is not banned when I have been banned for less. That is the kind of homophobia and extremism that results in hate crimes in real life, and I demand that action be taken against such behavior now.

    Sorry this is so long, but since I apparently can still post for the time being I’m going to use what remaining power I have left to call everyone out on their insane behavior. Instead of turning on each other, the anger should be directed at whoever decided this was an acceptable decision since it has completely ruptured an already damaged community in the wake of other bad decisions like Limited Jobs and Eureka.
    I honestly just don't care one way or another that doesn't make me a white knight that makes me indifferent. The fact that you however are calling others white knights shows the same behavior that you're trying to call others out on however thus the irony of the entire thing brought me out to speak. Everyone has differing opinions on the matter it doesn't make one side right and the other wrong it just means people are people.
    (47)

  2. #12
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    KylePearlsand's Avatar
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    Khona'ra Nhaja
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 100
    Not really. This kind of hate and vitriol is pretty much every other tuesday for the forums.
    (6)
    Last edited by KylePearlsand; 03-24-2019 at 03:23 PM.
    Hello, if you're reading this, then you should know this isn't part of the post.

  3. #13
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    both sides of the party are no better than each other
    throwing out insults left and right
    people laughing at and calling salt for those who didn't get male viera/female hrothgar/healer
    threats of unsub
    "good we don't need you in this community anyway"
    "toxic"
    "homophobe/sexist"
    just people in general just being pricks to each other
    there is just as many complaining about gender-lock as there is people complaining about the people complaining
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  4. #14
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    Leezil Paige
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    Balmung
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    I'm sorry OP, but I think you've characterized the conversation completely wrong. Does the following situation exist?:

    A: I feel upset about the genderlock.
    B: You suck, shut up.

    Yes, it has happened. It does for any topic in any community. Does it make up a significant proportion of the conversation? Is that claim representative of the conversation? Not at all.

    From my perspective, things have been:

    A: I'm so angry about the genderlock!
    B: I disagree with you!
    A: You're censoring me! You're white-knighting!

    Simply expressing disagreement isn't censorship, white-knighting, or shutting anyone down. Everyone else has just as much right to express their opinion as you.

    Frankly I'm incredibly irritated that people are more upset about a cosmetic option than an entire class. I don't think it reflects well on you.
    (61)
    Looking for RP on the First!

  5. #15
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidalutz View Post
    I honestly just don't care one way or another that doesn't make me a white knight that makes me indifferent. The fact that you however are calling others white knights shows the same behavior that you're trying to call others out on however thus the irony of the entire thing brought me out to speak. Everyone has differing opinions on the matter it doesn't make one side right and the other wrong it just means people are people.
    White Knight is the catch phase to throw at anyone who doesn't agree with their point of view. And they wonder why they get some of the responses leveled at them in return.
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  6. #16
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    Valdima's Avatar
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    Nagafusa Avagnar
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    Honestly I expect so little of people, seeing all this is...meh.
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  7. #17
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    Lite Brite
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderGodThor View Post
    For someone who described the FFXIV community as a "Shiny Turd" (check post history, it's true), you sure do seem to be representative of it.
    How's everyone is acting towards each other after these announcements, proves it is a shiny turd.
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  8. #18
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    gaou's Avatar
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    Sergei Leshrac
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    Tell me again how not making skinny bunny boys is homophobia when we got a buff lion race meant to draw in the kemono-bara crowd?
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  9. #19
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    Krystal Abyss
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    Mateus
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    I love it when players refer to SE as a single humanized entity, not a major corporation with different branches that puts out multi media from manga, to other genres of gaming. Is Tomb Raider or Hitman [sexuality related buzz word]? Probably not, but people sure act like it.
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  10. #20
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    ScarboroughFairy's Avatar
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    Vafre Navafreyr
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Dear Hydaelyn, this is the type of melodramatic crap I was talking about. Dude, bruh...it is not that serious.

    Holy shit.
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