Gender locked race?

[Rhix]

It's time for Yoshida to step down. He's officially entered Tanaka territory. We CAMPAIGNED against genderlocks and here we are in 2019. No one asked for Horthgar. They look horrible, and if you didn't want to add male Viera then don't add Viera period.

We should never let Square hear the end of this until the genderlocks are removed. I don't care that they have to do it to 2 races now, that was entirely their fault.

Fix the genderlocks or remove Yoshida. As producer/director he handles 100% of the blame and responsibility for this HORRIBLE decision.

[Rhix]

how is it wanting a male for an already existing female race "indulging in sexual fantasies"?

He's using a strawman argument to deflect blame and essentially be a white knight. He's embarrassing himself.

[Xeno85]

It's time for Yoshida to step down. He's officially entered Tanaka territory. We CAMPAIGNED against genderlocks and here we are in 2019. No one asked for Horthgar. They look horrible, and if you didn't want to add male Viera then don't add Viera period.

We should never let Square hear the end of this until the genderlocks are removed. I don't care that they have to do it to 2 races now, that was entirely their fault.

Fix the genderlocks or remove Yoshida. As producer/director he handles 100% of the blame and responsibility for this HORRIBLE decision.

What a sick, petty individual do you got to be to actively wish for the ruination of someone's career because they don't wanna put a peener on a specific race? Get over yourself. That's just gross.

[Lauront]

It's time for Yoshida to step down. He's officially entered Tanaka territory. We CAMPAIGNED against genderlocks and here we are in 2019. No one asked for Horthgar. They look horrible, and if you didn't want to add male Viera then don't add Viera period.

We should never let Square hear the end of this until the genderlocks are removed. I don't care that they have to do it to 2 races now, that was entirely their fault.

Fix the genderlocks or remove Yoshida. As producer/director he handles 100% of the blame and responsibility for this HORRIBLE decision.

The game isn't some social cause. They won't remove a director just because some people don't like a decision he made, particularly if on the whole his direction is making them money. If you want to approach this in a factual manner, monitor the % of active chars comprising Hrothgar later down the line and voice dissatisfaction on the gender lock. Money talks. There's no guarantee they will listen but they will respond better to this than anything else.

I am very happy to see Hrothgar made it in game. It is the very first playable beast-like race, a race that's new and unique. I am already considering a fantasia depending on how many feminine glamour items I have in regular use and if I am willing to give them up, and what the animations are going to be like. My excitement for male Viera was very low in comparison so between those two options I am pleased with what we got.

That said, is it really that difficult to add two full races at the same time? Considering how many people always look forward to new races it doesn't seem worth it to cut corners in this matter. There are much more pointless things added to the game in every expansion. Could've left out BLU, for example.

That would have removed the sting, IMO. If they did this and also added more customisation for existing races, I'd be over the moon. As things stand, there's now two races I won't be playing, and whilst I appreciate some people like the Hrothgar design, I am not one of them, so I'm disappointed.

[DevonEllwood]

I usually only post from work, but this is bothering me. Woke up to find that yeah, they genderlocked both races. I thought Yoshida didn't like genderlocked races and I can't see him sticking to this plan in the long run. They're going to get a lot of flak from the gaming community from doing this.

I never planned to play a male viera and I would only be interested in the hrothgar if they were a different small race, so the genderlocking doesn't affect my plans personally. The concept of it is what bothers me. I guess I'll be picking up a pair of bunny ears for my character to wear for a while to help show support.

[craybest]

i think hrothgar will add some variety to players, that being said it's still a niche race, and will be played by only a few people. viera will be very popular though.
it's a very cheap thing to do, because at the end it's just about them being unconfortable with the idea of male bunnies or female savage cats, since it's much more work to create 2 new genderlocked races with lore and story on their own, instead of 1 single race with both genders as it should be expected.

[Alleo]

Well done SE, seems that Shadowbringers might be the expansion where I will stop playing the game. Have supported you for quite some years but this is just going to far. After Eureka, Bluemage, now dancer being a DD and this..

I really wanted an awesome female beast race..yet again females will only get another cute/sexy race. While those that wanted Viera men will also lose.

I think I will only sub until the expansion to keep my mansion but if nothing great is happening in that expansion that will overshadow these horrible decisions than goodbye...but even if its great then I will probably just play with each new patch...no reason to give you more money than that.

[OniKeeki]

I created this account on this forum only to voice my utter disappointment in the gender locked news of Viera and Hrothgar.

I did not expect Hrothgar to come along but I am happy for it, however, gender locking them or Viera that so many waited was the stupidest idea I've ever heard. Some might argue that it is an good idea because.. looking at male bunnies would be disturbing because reasons? To those I would like to say, have you considered watching almost naked women characters running around the game might not disgust someone? And to those who might argue that it worked in FF11 I would like to say that I think many male miqo'te and female roegadyn players are quite happy with the unlocked genders, myself included. "But Viera was only female in FF12". That's weak argument. It was stated then that there ARE male vieras but they are just living the rouge life. In FF10 has plenty of female ronsos there so there is no excuse locking that up but they can't just make one locked race as it would be a cry of sexism right away, thought I would like to cry that right now anyway. I've been disappointed with gender locked clothing and hair styles to this day but that has not been enough for me to bother to write here. But I can't ignore a whole race being locked.

I've been male miqo'te since I started this game back in early 2016 and subbed ever since and never once had I considered changing my race, not until I heard about the viera that was. I never waited for new content as much as I did for this race. I find myself let down and quite honestly pushed away to a point I have considered canceling my pre-order and just quit playing. "It's just a race". Yes, yes it is just a race but it is also equally wisy-washy argument as "It's just a game." I've paid for each game and expansion that pre-order price as well as that monthly sub feed. I've bought stuff from the mooglestation and had multiple retainers open for who knows how long. I've paid so much money (even during the Rauban-block auring early access when the game was unplayable) and spend so much time, talked my friends into to joining as well, that it's not "just a game". It has been part of my social life as much as some school for 3+years. It's just one race out of all the new content, sure. I got bored most of the time thought. I don't enjoy doing the hardest content like newest EX primals/Savage raids (mostly because of toxic players...), I'm casual gamer and I personally enjoy stuff like glamour, roleplaying aspect and crafting. A race to me is more important than a new job or a new dungeon. And that is why I am so disappointed that it hurts in an emotional level.


Still, I don't feel entitled to tell Square Enix what to do but I hope they understand that some players, a lot of them in fact, are not happy and some don't want to support a game that wants to block them from having fun. Fun being the point of the whole idea of gaming.

Whether I quit over this or not depends on do I find anything worth while doing anymore now that I have nothing to wait for in the future.

[Eloah]

This article popped up when I was opening a new tab on my phone

keynote article

In it the say Hrothgar will come in male and female, though my guess is that is just misinformation. But one can hope... right?

[cicatriz313]

This article popped up when I was opening a new tab on my phone

keynote article

In it the say Hrothgar will come in male and female, though my guess is that is just misinformation. But one can hope... right?

Slide during the keynote literally said male only