Is it possible that the Au Ra were an allagan experiment?

[ObsidianFire]

The artificial voidsent experiment went well and probably isn't a reference to Au Ra. We see some of the artificial voidsent in Fractal Continuum and wandering around in Azys Lla (Naga and Empuse). We also know from the Arache Web tooltip that they cloned Arachne (first boss of Weeping City) specifically so the Allagans could mass produce her fibers. So far, all the artificial voidsent we have seen look exactly like their "natural" voidsent counterparts.

We actually don't know if the Xaela holy relics are Allagan in origin. We do know they are as old as Allag is though. If you compare the Auri myth with what we know of Allagan history, we can even make a pretty good guess as to who the traveler in the Auri myth is. It either is Amon himself, or another scientist working with him. We also know that Azys Lla was constructed by the time Xande was conquering Meracydia. Dalamud's launch would have happened after the war was won. What I find very interesting about the myth is that traveler in the Auri Myth doesn't create the Xaela relic (the Crystal from the House of the Crooked Coin) himself. Instead it says he asks Nhaama for help and the crystal was something Nhaama gave him. Which I find odd given that for the latter part of it's history, the Allagans were atheists. Why would someone who was probably heavily involved in Allagan aetherochemistry be associated with asking a high power for anything?

While I think the Xaela holy relic being something the Allagans constructed is a valid reading, I can't shake the idea that it could have been something that pre-dated the Allagans and that they just found it in the middle of nowhere. And then realized that they could store and move around large quantities with it. Ironically, some of the lore book entries on weapons have weapons that pre-date the Allagans and indicate that not even the Allagans could understand how they worked or were made (the "Omni" mage weapons). So there is a precedent for the Allagans not knowing how to create old items associated with magecraft. On the other hand, we do know of something else in the game that is very similar to the Xaela holy relic: the Crystal Tower. Both of those crystals are capable of manipulating and channeling huge quantities of aether on a scale never seen elsewhere in the game. And we do know that the Crystal Tower was created by the Allagans. On the other hand, the Crystal Tower was created sometime after the first Xande's death and before the time of Amon. If the Allagans were so good at creating crystals that could manipulate and store aether on a huge scale, why have a story about them going all the way over to Othard to find another power source? and it wasn't even once that the Allagans did that. The first time was to ask for something that could redirect/store aether. The second time was to use that stored aether to launch Dalamud. Either way, I get the feeling we are missing some information somewhere. Either about in what state the Allagans were in at the time of the Meracydian Conquest or about what the Xaela holy relic is actually doing. Given that we have a lot less lore about the Xaela then the Allgans, I'm thinking that it's the Xaela we don't know enough about.

What stands out to me about the Au Ra creation myth is how different it is compared to the other myth systems in the game. Both the Twelve and the Eastern Kami are portrayed as being of the planet in some way. Either because the Twelve were born of it and then created the world around them or because the Kami are associated with dwelling in things in the world for long periods of time. Azim and Nhaama start out as the Sun and the Moon and are portrayed as starting in the heavens. And even back then they are fighting with each other. Their purpose in coming to the planet is to give birth to proxies that can fight their war for them. Only, it turns out that the proxies of the gods don't keep fighting each other, but make peace instead. This leads to Azim and Nhaama to stop fighting and going back to being the sun and the moon. According to the Oronir they fall in love with each other, but some of the descriptions for the other tribes (particularly the Kagon) makes it sound like other tribes have different endings to that particular myth. And it's like... warring deities who are opposites of each other and fight each other through proxies... where have we heard that story/history before? I'm wondering if the Auri Creation Myth is a bastardization of the story of Hydaelyn and Zodiark and someone gave it a "good ending" over the four thousand years the Xaela have been around. Out of all the myth systems we know of, it's the one that fits the version of events that Hydaelyn told us the best.

[kidalutz]

What stands out to me about the Au Ra creation myth is how different it is compared to the other myth systems in the game. Both the Twelve and the Eastern Kami are portrayed as being of the planet in some way. Either because the Twelve were born of it and then created the world around them or because the Kami are associated with dwelling in things in the world for long periods of time. Azim and Nhaama start out as the Sun and the Moon and are portrayed as starting in the heavens. And even back then they are fighting with each other. Their purpose in coming to the planet is to give birth to proxies that can fight their war for them. Only, it turns out that the proxies of the gods don't keep fighting each other, but make peace instead. This leads to Azim and Nhaama to stop fighting and going back to being the sun and the moon. According to the Oronir they fall in love with each other, but some of the descriptions for the other tribes (particularly the Kagon) makes it sound like other tribes have different endings to that particular myth. And it's like... warring deities who are opposites of each other and fight each other through proxies... where have we heard that story/history before? I'm wondering if the Auri Creation Myth is a bastardization of the story of Hydaelyn and Zodiark and someone gave it a "good ending" over the four thousand years the Xaela have been around. Out of all the myth systems we know of, it's the one that fits the version of events that Hydaelyn told us the best.

Well keep in mind that even in the Hero of Lights own Time facts of thier exploits are being blown up fantasized and romanticized alongside the actual facts so... four thousand years later the Warrior of Light is going to wind up some egnimatic deity that came down from the heavens and sorted out all the evils of the world at the time alongside the children of the gods (the Scions) before returning to the heavens to rule over them or some such nonsense. We've beaten and curbstomped allagan legends in our time think on that.