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    Lozza's Avatar
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    Shaelysis Amara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira View Post
    I'm not calling you out personally, but I dont understand how so many people made this same mistake and thought buying the game through Steam meant having to use Steam.
    Because back in ARR all MMOs on Steam worked in such a way that you didn't need to run Steam to use them. In fact until HW was released for pre order it wasn't even known that people who bought ARR on Steam would be locked into buying HW on Steam. They literally sent an email out two weeks after pre-orders went live for HW to say oh if you are a Steam user you need to wait for pre order on Steam, which didn't start for another couple of months.

    ESO was the first MMO I know of to use this new system of Steam forcing the connection via their own servers. And it still is a complete disaster some 18+ months on, Steam ESO players can go days and weeks being completely unable to log into the game. This isn't just about having to hit play in the Steam browser to make the game work, it comes with additional overhead that essentially boils down to any Steam disruption means a dc for you if you are in game - with a healthy chance you might not be able to log on again for a hour or two or even days. This isn't hyperbole, this is actually happening in ESO. A two day downtime for Steam users only was fixed earlier this morning my time. Many MMOs no longer have Steam listings because they don't want to follow Steam's rules.
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    Nora Origo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozza View Post
    Because back in ARR all MMOs on Steam worked in such a way that you didn't need to run Steam to use them. In fact until HW was released for pre order it wasn't even known that people who bought ARR on Steam would be locked into buying HW on Steam. They literally sent an email out two weeks after pre-orders went live for HW to say oh if you are a Steam user you need to wait for pre order on Steam, which didn't start for another couple of months.
    I do vaguely remember this because right before HW started, I was forced into making a new service account (former service account was shut down because I used the steam refund policy. dont do that.) I must've made both accounts in steam to even use the steam refund policy, but I do remember specifically them telling me that I had to purchase the steam HW expansion in order to play HW. I never really felt locked in or imprisoned, I LIKE Steam and what it does. Though I can't say I've experienced the Auth Servers as I never played another Steam MMO longer than a day or 2. they never kept my attention...I hope this downtime is not as bad as it sounds.
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