Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[xkazh]

absolutely stellar run of Dun Scaith tonight. Diabolos took three tries. This was our 2nd try. Notice his HP with most of the raid being dead.


This is why I always heal DS bc I know I can rely on myself to solo heal my alliance and raise the rest. Sometimes I just get tired of healing and want to be selfish DPS for once so BLM and now I'm reminded as to why I don't do that and heal them instead.

[Barraind]

I want to be free of Eureka; I really do. ;-;

Join reflect group, put on defensive logos, pull. Pop potion, defense CD, die cause I got reflected.

Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

"Go ahead and pull 2" only heals is potion. Die.

Defensive cd's have a significantly longer CD than pulls, and I only get so many deaths per logo...

Missed penny and goblin in that stretch. Would have been more light.

[Barraind]

Not quite. The recommendation system looks at your primary stat first of all, so for a tank it would recommend the piece of gear with the most VIT - which can indeed often lead to bad recommendations at lower levels.

YOU SHOULD REALLY EQUIP THIS MANDERVILLE EARRING, IT HAS A COUPLE VIT AND YOUR AUGMENTED IRONWORKS EARRING DOESNT.

Was nice to hit 60 on everything to never deal with that again.

[Mesarthim]

I didn't know it was possible for this sequence of events to even go in this order. Sloppy world of darkness. It apparently had around 6 new people, but apparently 12+ people who didn't have common sense or weren't familiar with what they were doing at all.

2 wipes for Angra Mainyu, expected I guess with these people. Second boss went fine. Cerberus? Cerberus. First attempt they took down the belly and I went to grab a chain. I fettered my end but the other person who grabbed onto a chain... wiped the raid. Pro tip guys: Don't needlessly hold onto the chain so long that it expires out of your hand because IT HAS A TIMER. If you grab it early and let it expire you have almost not enough time to grab a new chain. Second Cerberus attempt not enough people went into the belly and he eventually destroyed us. Quite curious how this attempt is what you'd expect first, not the other way around. Cloud went fine.

Grab chains responsibly.

[Aster_E]

Without too much context, other than a convo I had with someone in the DF about running Savage raids this tier, I leave you all with the following.

Me: "O9s itself is an easy fight, but the people? The people will people all the people-while."
The other person: "That... is the strangest truest statement I have heard in a long while o.O"

[InkstainedGwyn]

I am reminded of one of my first Orbonne runs, first week into the patch. Cid was (as expected) causing issues, and one alliance in particular was wiping to every other mechanic because they didn't understand the in/out signals. Every 5-10 minutes someone would call for a "vote abandon"; finally it's traced to one of the people in the always-dead alliance.

Said individual was a mentor.

Now, I don't usually get in on the mentor-bashing because while I've seen it misused, I also know it's highly subjective. However, when this "mentor" was called out on constantly trying to vote abandon ("just tell your group to kick you and let us teach folks"), they complained that "none of them knew how to do anything."

Us: "You're a mentor. Have you been explaining the mechanics to them?"

Them: "I shouldn't have to! Using the Duty Finder is a guarantee that you already have cleared a fight and understand all of the mechanics!"

Us: ...
Us: ...
Us: LMAO SCREENSHOT THAT.

I get it. You really should try to understand a fight before you go into it, but especially during the first week of new content, that info is going to be sparse - and as someone taking the mentor crown, you've "supposedly" agreed to help folks who are in need of helping. Their alliance finally kicked them (I suppose they got tired of being constantly bashed for being terrible) and I explained the fight; there was another wipe, I think, maybe two, but they were much smoother and we finally got through.

Some folks, I swear.

[Iscah]

Not quite. The recommendation system looks at your primary stat first of all, so for a tank it would recommend the piece of gear with the most VIT - which can indeed often lead to bad recommendations at lower levels.

Ah, that makes sense. Slightly different mechanism, same overall effect - the game has no clue what your actual best armour is.

Seems like a massive oversight though. Can it only look at substats, perhaps?

My issue isn't with the item level. It's with the SCH going into content with a bad weapon, knowing it was bad (because they told me they were aware it was a poor weapon and needed replacing/upgrading), but choosing to do the content anyways. It was a conscious decision to enter the content with a bad weapon.

For what it's worth, it *could* be a mistake. I've been leveling my alt's AST lately - I kept telling myself "no, you can't do leveling roulette today as AST, you're level 58 and haven't upgraded your Ironworks gear yet".... except that one time I saw 'healer in need', totally forgot I was still undergeared, lept at the chance.... and of course I got the Vault. >_<

Could be the same experience for them in Alliance Roulette, and not thinking of ending up in Lv70 content with it.

First attempt they took down the belly and I went to grab a chain. I fettered my end but the other person who grabbed onto a chain... wiped the raid. Pro tip guys: Don't needlessly hold onto the chain so long that it expires out of your hand because IT HAS A TIMER.

My first attempt at doing the chain mechanic, I absolutely could not get my game to target the fetter. Maybe there was something in my PS4 targeting settings that was skipping over that non-enemy target, but I couldn't get it to work.

Since then, I just let someone else do it. (But do check that someone is doing it.)

[Satai]

Well, to be perfectly honest players who hold onto the chains and wait til the timer is between 10 and 7 seconds remaining before attaching them to cerberus are playing the mechanic right.
Cause its more uptime for everyone on a boss just lying there, doing nothing instead of waking the boss up asap and have him jumping around doing mechanics again

[HyoMinPark]

Well, to be perfectly honest players who hold onto the chains and wait til the timer is between 10 and 7 seconds remaining before attaching them to cerberus are playing the mechanic right.
Cause its more uptime for everyone on a boss just lying there, doing nothing instead of waking the boss up asap and have him jumping around doing mechanics again

I’m fairly certain Cerberus won’t start “jumping around doing mechanics again” until after the Reawakening cast finishes. Him being fettered again just ensures he doesn’t get 16 stacks of haste and damage up.

That being said, I’d rather chain him early than worry about a few seconds of uptime in an outdated 24-man raid. I’ve seen too many occasions where people don’t chain him, and then we wipe. And that’s quite the feat at this point in the content’s life. At least it makes for an interesting run...


Running Orbonne to attempt to get the last piece of tank gear (boots). Always feels interesting to get an in-prog tank queue and hear how bad the tank that was kicked was when I’m fairly certain I won’t do much better, still being new to tanking 24-mans (at a level-70-level, anyways).

[Mesarthim]

Well, to be perfectly honest players who hold onto the chains and wait til the timer is between 10 and 7 seconds remaining before attaching them to cerberus are playing the mechanic right.
Cause its more uptime for everyone on a boss just lying there, doing nothing instead of waking the boss up asap and have him jumping around doing mechanics again

I don't think wiping the raid is doing the mechanic right, though this is thankfully an infrequent scenario. Cerberus isn't a difficult fight but all it takes is screwing up belly mechanics (insufficient people, albeit this is also extremely rare) or people messing up chains to wipe the whole thing.

It's an unnecessary risk. He'll be dead long before you even have to consider doing these two mechanics a second time, even if you chain immediately.