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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post
    It's also yet another example of trying to insert logic into this that doesn't exist.
    Your example isn’t much different, to be honest.

    By your own example the healer states they don't want to because its stressful or because they can't do it very well, the why doesn't really matter. It's going to be right on the tank if they want to make it difficult by forcing wipes because he refuses to adapt in a roulette.
    Why can’t the healer adapt in a roulette? Why does it have to be the tank?

    What's the tank going to do if the healer is too poorly geared for/simply can't handle large pulls or the DPS can't do enough damage?
    What if the healer is in full i390/400 gear and the DPS are doing “enough damage”?

    Throw a tantrum and force everyone to wait out the kick timer?
    When did I say the tank was going to throw a tantrum? What if the healer did this?

    If you 100% want your way, go make a manual group and stay the hell out of roulette if you can't adapt to whatever hand you are dealt.
    The same can be said to the healer?


    You’re literally proving my point. These guidelines can be spun to fit anything. So who wins? Who is “right”?



    There's more than enough clarity if everyone would take a step back instead of plotting passive aggressive scenarios as a "Told you so!". You are the only one that can dig your grave when it comes to these if you get reported for something.
    I’m not trying to do a “Told you so!”, but thank you for assuming. Comparing this Code of Conduct to other MMOs’ codes of conducts, the latter examples give explicit examples of things that are strictly prohibited, and none of them have strange guidelines like “unilaterally rejecting another’s opinion” or “compelling a playstyle” or “contravene (undefined) morals”. That’s all people are asking for, because these “guidelines” carry the connotation of “anything that offends someone”, which is incredibly vague.

    But, that’s just too much to ask for, I guess.


    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    I think, in this case, the tank would probably have to concede. Pulling more than the party could handle could end in failure leading to a wipe while pulling less than a party can handle just lengthens the time it takes to complete a duty. Thus, while both sides could cite emotional distress, the healer could also cite obstructive behavior.
    Why would the tank have to concede? How is larger pulls “obstructive behavior”? Tiraelina said that you have to deal with the hand you’re dealt with in roulettes... except apparently in the case of this healer? Where they are allowed to now dictate the pace of the tank/party? The tank is suddenly the one who has to deal, but why is this not being applied to the healer? What makes them exempt from “dealing with the hand you’re dealt with”?
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 02-13-2019 at 04:31 PM.
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