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    Maeka Blazewing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I agree with you here, but not for the reasons you would think. SE has chosen to intervene because we as a community, failed. They wouldn't have to do things like this if everyone was respectable and courteous to one another, and obeyed the freakin rules. But no. We've forced their hands and there's going to be increased policing as a result. Everyone needs to look in a mirror instead of pointing fingers at SE. It's not their fault. It's ours.
    Nobody forced their hands, they already had the most tame and the least toxic playerbase in nearly any mainstream online game I've heard of.
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    Nobody forced their hands, they already had the most tame and the least toxic playerbase in nearly any mainstream online game I've heard of.
    Least toxic doesn't mean the game is devoid of it. Also, if you were a GM, your perception on how little toxicity there is within the game would likely change.
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Least toxic doesn't mean the game is devoid of it. Also, if you were a GM, your perception on how little toxicity there is within the game would likely change.
    Their perception is no doubt skewed. I've been on other MMOs, and comparatively speaking, this one has one of the most polite, friendly communities of any.

    Sorry but I'm not going to take attitudes like offering advice on dps, or pointing out errors in dps rotations or the actions someone is taking, as "toxic".

    Quote Originally Posted by LaurieB View Post
    No one, no game, no institution, no nothing, institutes babysitting without a reason. Data shows them that, we as players don't have that information, and even if they did it would be "never happened to me that way must never happen at all" which is not true. All I know is that no one wants to spend time, money, effort, just to put you out in some way without a reason. It wouldn't have happened just "because they felt like it" somewhere along the way it got out of hand.
    OK, then I'd like to see them provide the data justifying such easily abused, poorly worded new ToS, including how they plan to moderate and review GM behaviour in order to ensure it does not become unfair or biased. I'm not just going to swallow these rationalisations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Their perception is no doubt skewed. I've been on other MMOs, and comparatively speaking, this one has one of the most polite, friendly communities of any.
    I'm not going to argue with that. This is a big reason why I think most players don't have anything to worry about. I know we are currently living in a society that is overly sensitive, and certain rights we have are questionable if we actually truly do still have them because everyone feels like they have to walk on egg shells. But you don't have to. I know I don't, and I'm not worried at all. Be a respectable human being and you won't ever have to worry about receiving corrective action from the GMs.

    Sorry but I'm not going to take attitudes like offering advice on dps, or pointing out errors in dps rotations or the actions someone is taking, as "toxic".
    That's cool. Then you accept that another player can claim you are harassing them by you behaving this way. You are not a member of this person's FC, a friend, or any kind of confidant where your advice is solicited. You are literally going to waste not only your time, but everyone else's as well trying to get this player to see 2+2=4.
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    Vivian Flamebreak
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    That's cool. Then you accept that another player can claim you are harassing them by you behaving this way. You are not a member of this person's FC, a friend, or any kind of confidant where your advice is solicited. You are literally going to waste not only your time, but everyone else's as well trying to get this player to see 2+2=4.
    So offering advice to strangers is considered rude? gotcha.. this is the sort of thing that should be detailed.
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