Regarding the Revision of the Prohibited Activities and Account Penalty Policy

[Katie_Kitty]

Pretty sure this applies to the people who right out say "Oh no not this dungeon." "Or kick me, because I don't want to be here." /actively disconnects.

Sounds like a rule designed to force tanks and healers to tank and heal for people. I'm a human being, not a slave, and personally I reserve the right to leave any duty at any time I desire to for any reason.

[Mirakumi]

Sounds like a rule designed to force tanks and healers to tank and heal for people. I'm a human being, not a slave, and personally I reserve the right to leave any duty at any time I desire to for any reason.

Yeah but if you queued for the dungeon then you should just leave it and take the kick timer. Instead of disconnecting on purpose and wasting everyone's time.

[Katie_Kitty]

Yeah but if you queued for the dungeon then you should just leave it and take the kick timer. .

Which could unfortunately easily fit into the category of "Other obstruction of play".

[Mirakumi]

Which could unfortunately easily fit into the category of "Other obstruction of play".

Yeah exactly. You signing yourself for a dungeon and then standing around un-willing to participate is an Obstruction of play for other people. You're absolutely right.

[Katie_Kitty]

Yeah exactly. You signing yourself for a dungeon and then standing around un-willing to participate is an Obstruction of play for other people. You're absolutely right.

I meant abandoning the duty and taking the penalty. The rules are written so as to allow for the possibility that you could be punished for utilizing that game feature. So why should I not think it might happen?

[Mirakumi]

I meant abandoning the duty and taking the penalty. The rules are written so as to allow for the possibility that you could be punished for utilizing that game feature. So why should I not think it might happen?

You're trolling me, right?

[Katie_Kitty]

You're trolling me, right?

Nope. These rules unfortunately are extremely vague and ripe for abuse. If there's one thing I know about power, it is that it is easily abused. There's really no reason not to think that it would eventually come to that.

[kikix12]

Sounds like a rule designed to force tanks and healers to tank and heal for people. I'm a human being, not a slave, and personally I reserve the right to leave any duty at any time I desire to for any reason.

Sure. Just hit that "Leave Duty" button and you're in the clear. That's the only correct way to leave a duty just cause you didn't like it. Anything else, like playing horribly to provoke being kicked or standing at the entrance and doing nothing...is not allowed. That is actually one of the better reasons for a similar rule.

That being said, all of these rules are way too wide in scope. I understand that it's impossible to list everything that could possibly be done...but come on. Furthermore many of these rules are completely unnecessary due to different ones. Like, most rules that involve interactions are only scaring players into thinking they can be banned for every single thing, when all you'd need is:

Expressions that any reasonable person would find offensive.

This covers EVERYTHING related to social interactions between players that should be there. Everything else covers the exact same things...but not only reasonable.

For example, and this is the absolute worst case scenario:

Other expressions that are offensive to another person.

in reality reads as

Everything that another person doesn't like.

If you have one rule that covers all things that any reasonable person finds offensive, then everything else adds to that only the things that a completely unreasonable person finds offensive. Seeing as the rules are stated on an equal tier (aka the other rules are not examples to make it clearer but are actual rules side by side with that reasonable one), there is absolutely no other logically correct way to consider it granted the context.

In other words, sorry, but according to those rules I could report a GM for saying "Hey, are you there?" to check up on whether I'm not a bot because I know for a fact that there are TONS of people that find it extremely offensive to be spoken to by "Hey..." by anyone, let alone stranger. If your rules are impossible to avoid breaking by your stuff doing their job, you know there's something horribly wrong with them.


Also, I understand that it is not your intention...but I also do not trust people. Let alone people that have very little personal responsibility as your enforcement employees have. And I know for a fact that as a company you'd protect them (even if "you" as a company would disagree with it) unless they went on a frenzied war with majority of the community simply become admitting to your GM abusing his power would cause way bigger outrage.
This problem is only amplified by the fact that such penalties not only compound on each other but cannot be removed by your staff even if they DO admit to making a mistake. And they'll do a LOT of mistakes with rules so wide in scope.

PS: Yes, the way the introduction is phrased, GM's and even Yoshida himself also fall under these guidelines. And yes, the rules use "person" instead of "customer" or "player", meaning that they could be reported and should be banned, going by the rule, for basically anything. When taken literally.