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[ChocoFeru]

Oh hey its you again.

So if no matter the rotation, it'll still be generic. Right. So Gunbreaker and whatever other class they add will also be generic then. So if your definition of Generic is behaves like a normal job then yes: I want BLU to be a "generic" job, because I would like it to be something i can experience the game with, like my other "generic" jobs.

Gunbreaker will have new skills and mechanics but yeah, it will end up doing the same rotation on every single boss of every single content, no matter their size, element, weakness etc. I don't mean this is something "bad" because I enjoy playing with normal jobs and raiding, I just say that there's no point in destroying a job that works different and brings something new into the table. There are other casters you can choose to play with, just let us have something new.

Also, Limited jobs getting better in the future, does not justify them as they are now. Implement now and patch it later is a horrible philosophy anyway. Going Deeper, okay they add 10 more levels and a new carnival, thats another 2 days of content (unless the rng is terrible), having more limited job doesn't change the fact that what limited jobs can do is horrendously flawed in the first place.

That's the true problem. BLU or Limited Jobs need to bring fresh new content, and carnival doesn't feel enough. That's what we should fight for, and not destroying it to fit a content that we already have.

Finally, I see you everywhere commenting that limited jobs could change the overworld. Nah they won't. Other jobs including gathers need to be able to function in the overworld, so limited jobs are going to slot around the overworld, not change it.

We don't know yet. They hinted Beastmaster in a Live Letter and said the actual content can't fit this kind of job. We should fight against "carnival only" content and maybe we'll get a chance to improve the overworld and get new content.


I think turning BLU into a normal job would be a huge step back. I love this game and don't want it to get stagnant into the same content on every single patch.

[GenericMagus]

Oh hey its you again.

So if no matter the rotation, it'll still be generic. Right. So Gunbreaker and whatever other class they add will also be generic then. So if your definition of Generic is behaves like a normal job then yes: I want BLU to be a "generic" job, because I would like it to be something i can experience the game with, like my other "generic" jobs.

Also, Limited jobs getting better in the future, does not justify them as they are now. Implement now and patch it later is a horrible philosophy anyway. Going Deeper, okay they add 10 more levels and a new carnival, thats another 2 days of content (unless the rng is terrible), having more limited job doesn't change the fact that what limited jobs can do is horrendously flawed in the first place.

Finally, I see you everywhere commenting that limited jobs could change the overworld. Nah they won't. Other jobs including gathers need to be able to function in the overworld, so limited jobs are going to slot around the overworld, not change it.

This reminds me of when SE had those slides and they promised all those different things, including a fix now not patch later promise and listening to the fanbase.

Anyone here that have those pictures on that slide? The promises SE meant to keep?

[xbahax92]

Blue Mage leveling numbers: png
It seems 46.3% (EU) / 48.2% (NA) / 53.1% (JP) of total currently active characters have unlocked Blue Mage and 17.8% (EU) / 18.6% (NA) / 27.3% (JP) of total currently active characters have reached level 50 on BLU

Dropping this here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...february_2019/

[GenericMagus]

Dropping this here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...february_2019/

Well that census is unofficial so have to take it with a grain of salt, but that doesn't say the community enjoyed it or not.

I feel this is only skin deep, and can just be mis-represented by SE to say BLU is successful, even if it isn't. I do like seeing those at 50 drop massively from pick up, means the content is already dead so SE has to fix.

[Vnolan]

This entire complaint is not unique to Blue Mage, Gunbreaker and any other job releasing in Shadowbringers is subject to this exact balance conundrum. Arguably, another caster would actually be less difficult to balance than another tank and healer.

So in that case no new tanks + healers? I mean, we'll have 4 tanks come ShB, do we really need that according to you?

1. Resources have already been allocated for those jobs. You're asking to take away from other aspects (unless you're asking for a full-job BLU in 6.0) just to be put into the position of having four casters
2. Parties have to take two tanks and two healers. You don't have to take any casters
3. Fewer players roll as tank or healer. If the new tank is the weakest of the four, it's not like they'll be prevented from joining groups. Even after potency changes you still have parties excluding SAM/BLM. They're able to do that because of how many DPS players there are.

[GenericMagus]

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1. So you don't want to put in resources for a dead, broken and Limited job and want to invest more into jobs that aren't even broken or absolutely need seeing too. Yes I know the argument for helping DRK and WHM but that's nothing compared to a Limited job. At least you can still main them.

2. Are you assuming automatic party set ups? Why can't I run all 4 Casters? Speed running statics are running 2 Melee DPS and BRD + MCH, guess we don't need any more physical ranged then because 2's enough. Hell, going by that example, Melee DPS shouldn't even have SAM, as that makes 4 MDPS.

Hell, throughout all of FF, people have been solo tanking + solo healing as well. You don't have to follow the standard party set up. The system is flexible.

3. I'll say this. You have probably never experienced Gordias Savage in HW at launch. PLD WAS the weakest tank, and was actively forced out of every party that was serious, unable to clear content till like weeks later, was detrimental to bring into Gordias and had almost no uses at all, being a burden to everyone at all. No job with the exception of BLU even comes close to that right now.

Yes people will still be people and will follow meta like sheep and go hurrdurr, lock SAM/BLM, but these are the very rare groups. That's nothing compared to that. Nothing. Every job is playable, all of them are viable and your attitude seems to consist of "only meta matters, so adjust them on that."

I'll leave this here. At least your job is PLAYABLE and MAINABLE.

[Deceptus]

This reminds me of when SE had those slides and they promised all those different things, including a fix now not patch later promise and listening to the fanbase.

Anyone here that have those pictures on that slide? The promises SE meant to keep?

[GenericMagus]

Thank you so much for that, man I love it when these get brought up. And saddened.

[Vnolan]

1. So you don't want to put in resources for a dead, broken and Limited job and want to invest more into jobs that aren't even broken or absolutely need seeing too. Yes I know the argument for helping DRK and WHM but that's nothing compared to a Limited job. At least you can still main them.

You think the amount of work required for WHM/DRK/MCH adjustments is anything close to what BLU would require?

[Valdegarde]

You think the amount of work required for WHM/DRK/MCH adjustments is anything close to what BLU would require?

Who knows, but it's what Blue Mage deserves.